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@pantfan
Just reading your story, it sure sounds like DIPNECH. First, I agree with others that you need to get a second opinion with a NETs specialist before you have any treatment. If your surgeon is not a NETs specialist, take a pause. NETs is not treated the same as other lung cancers. Do you have typical carcinoids -- the very slowing growing kind? Typical carcinoids and DIPNECH are non-smoking conditions and typically diagnosed in middle-aged women after years of symptoms and misdiagnoses. COPD is often one of the misdiagnoses. I kept being treated for asthma and the inhalers not only didn't help, they made my cough worse. Sorry you're allergic to contrast. That's unfortunate. I had one DOTATATE scan, but it turns out I don't have the somatostatin receptors so we just monitor with chest CTs every 6 months.

When I had my first chest CT in 2008 for chronic bronchitis, they discovered I had over 50 lung nodules spread across both lungs, all lobes. They couldn't reach any nodules for a needle biopsy and I refused an open chest biopsy. 20 specialists of all kinds took guesses over the next 12 years about what it was and were all wrong. In 2020, when my breast cancer (not related) came back, they said they could now do a needle biopsy on the largest 2.6 cm nodule in my LLL. They wanted to be sure it wasn't breast cancer spread there. They discovered it was a typical carcinoid. My own research led me to a Mayo article about DIPNECH and bingo, I knew that had to be it. I asked to be referred to the UCLA NETs team (away from the local thoracic surgeon my breast oncologist lined up for me). My breast oncologist knew nothing about NETs or DIPNECH. UCLA diagnosed me with DIPNECH based on scans, number of nodules, patterns, and various other lung issues they could see.

For me, they did not want to surgically remove the largest nodule because they want to preserve as much healthy lung tissue as possible given all lobes are affected. They did a microwave ablation (probes thru my back into the tumor) to destroy the tumor 5.5 years ago. It was successful and hasn't come back. They may need to ablate others in the future if one nodule starts to grow faster or behave differently from the rest. They'll destroy any like that to prevent metastasis which is less likely in typical carcinoids, but can happen. Based on symptoms, I've had DIPNECH/carcinoids for probably 40 years and it's still confined to my lungs. I hope you find that encouraging. It's great news!

I've been taking an octreotide injection every 28 days for 5 years and it stopped my cough, reduced mucus, helped shortness of breath and made me much, much less chemically sensitive to fragrances and cleaning agents. As a miracle side benefit it suppresses histamines and greatly improved my animal allergies so I can even pet animals for the first time in my adult life and go into homes with animals. I love animals! It has been life-changing! It does have some side effects, but they are so much better for me than the chronic cough was, I'll never stop taking the injections so long as they work. And, the octreotide is ordered by my NETs oncologist in Los Angeles, but I get the octreotide shots at my local breast oncology office so it's very convenient. A distant NETs team is willing to coordinate with a local team. I hope you can find the right providers and enjoy the same success.

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@californiazebra Hi, and thank you for replying. I am so glad I found this forum!
I also discovered the Dipnech phenomenon after doing a lot of research. I believe I definitely fit the Dipnech profile as I've had multiple small nodules on my scans from 30 years ago. I was also treated for asthma and COPD for many years without any success. I could not tolerate any of the inhalers, which made me cough more. My pulmonolgist did not understand why this was happening. I was also treated for allergies without any success. Not many doctors know about Dipnech, not even my lung oncologist did (he had to look it up!).
I also refused the open biopsy and had navigational broncoscopy instead. It's a robotic biopsy which is performed by running a scope through the airways. The biopsy showed a low-grade carcinoid with Ki-67 <5% and no necrosis or lymph node involvment. Unfortunately, they could not distinguish between typical or atypical, and recommended a surgucal resection in order to determine the type.
My doctors did not have any idea about what tumor ablation is. I was steered toward surgery immediately after the biopsy. No one wanted to discuss my other nodules. They suggested SBRT as an alternative if surgery was not an option. I refuse to do radiation. I've had so many scans throughout the years, I wonder if maybe the radiation contributed to my issue?
I'm glad you found an oncologist who was willing to order the microwave ablation to successfully treat the tumor and preserve your lung function. My lung function is compromised due to the chronic cough, and surgery will make it worse. I am looking forward to finding a NET specialist who will help me determine the best treatment for my situation and preserve my lung function. Octreotide injections seem to be working for many Dipnech patients. I also have allergies to animals, parfumes, many odors and dust. Each NET patient needs an individual approach, as there are so many different scenarios.