@wilcy Hi. I think we have talked before. I have severe peripheral neuropathy, and so far, I feel Kratom works way better than anything for pain, if you find the right strain. I buy mine on line from Happyhippoherbals.com I chose them after lots of research because they have been approved by the American Kratom Society for the purity of their products. There are no contaminants. pesticides. salmonella, etc. I pick the "low strains," that they say is for something like body discomfort, well being. They do not come out and say it is for pain, but my oh my, I am utterly pain free from the right choices. I do not take it everyday, as it is addictive. I take it no more than about 3 days a week, tops. But I like it because it is just relaxing, and does not make me feel high. And all pain leaves for maybe 3 hours or so. I take it twice in one day, usually. I take about 5 grams a serving. I seem to need a lot to feel it. Anyway, thought I would share. The stuff is vile, but I swig it down, and laugh. Really disgusting, but a miracle for pain. Lori Renee