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aquablation and retro ejaculation

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Hi gentlemen,

I can comment on a few of the posts.

RE (retrograde ejaculation) or Anejaculation (no fluid at all - so men don't see the ejaculate in their urine when they void after orgasm) is sometimes an unavoidable consequence of even the most apical tissue sparing BPH approaches. The trap door that keeps the fluid from going back into the bladder is thought to be at the part of the prostate closest to the sphincter or "check valve" which attaches to the urethra. The opposite end of the prostate that connects to the bladder is thought to not be very vulnerable for either problems with ejaculation or erections.

Treatments that try to spare ejaculation essentially minimize operating on the area where the trap doors exist. Aquablation uses transrectal ultrasound in real time to 1. spare the tissue near the verumontanum (also referred to apical tissue) to leave the important tissue behind and 2. optimize depth of resection down to but ideally not through the prostate capsule. So how is it then that men could possibly lose ejaculation after aquablation? First, we are not entirely clear of the mechanical mechanism that is actually happening (i.e. what apical tissue is the most crucial to spare)- this lack of understanding probably leaves us a bit vulnerable. Second, the prostate has a very generous blood supply - there is a whole line of BPH approaches which tries to address this - PVP laser and Rezum steam therapy typically cause much less bleeding. BUT, most BPH procedures use a conductive heat source to eliminate tissue. As the name implies, we treat one area but unbeknownst to us, the heat is damaging parts of the prostate we don't see it melting in real time. Aquablation uses a water jet which is not heated - this is theoretically better since the computer only eliminates the prostate it is programmed to (like a deck pressure washer clearing of old stain). So, the question remains why do men get RE after aquablation? Because the prostate has such a good blood supply, once the pressure washer is done, one has to look back into the prostate and stop the bleeding. Like most bleeding in surgery, this is stopped with cauterization (conductive heat source). Thus about 10% of men require aggressive cautery near the apex which unintentionally damages the ejaculatory mechanism. The only BPH approaches that have Zero RE risk are mechanical, non-heat sourced approaches like: Urolift and Itind. Rezum has about a 5% RE rate in my hands because it uses convective heat (steam). The problem with Urolift and Itind and to a lesser extent Rezum is durability - because you are not eliminating all the tissue you can, sometimes the treatments only last a few years before symptoms return.

Regarding urinary symptoms after BPH procedures, this is almost universal. For whatever reason, people think surgery these days will not include pain or post op discomfort. This is patently false, modern medicine does its best to minimize these complaints but the body does takes time to heal and return to close to normal after prostate tissue is destroyed in some form (but sometimes never back to totally normal). This process typically takes 4-6 weeks but I have some patients that take up to a year for their bladder and prostate to calm down.

Finally, if you experience RE after bph surgery, can normal antegrade ejaculation ever return? Rarely, the trap door tissue grows back and normal ejaculation is restored - but this is rare in my experience - < 10% of the time. Luckily most men with changes in ejaculation still enjoy orgasm.

Best

Dr Kohler
Mayo Clinic Men's Health

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Replies to "Hi gentlemen, I can comment on a few of the posts. RE (retrograde ejaculation) or Anejaculation..."

@tkohler Many thanks for your very detailed explanation...helps to answer the questions and unknowns. Your time in reply very much appreciated.

@tkohler thanks, interesting post!