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@kujhawk1978 I also researched and pursued radiation + ADT and RP surgery, and following multiple consultations I ultimately had RP surgery within 5 months of being diagnosed with Gleason 3+4=7 prostate cancer. So I believe it's fair to say that to date, I've stuck with the science as well, even though I've implemented FenBen and IVR along the way. I realize that any personal feedback I could ever provide about my personal experience with them would be considered purely as colloquial evidence, and I'm okay with that. It was and is still my personal decision to take that 'chance'. If I get to a point where salvage radiation + ADT is recommended, I will assess my life at the time and make that decision, but I will more than likely stick with the science then as well. Also, if at any point in time I experience adverse side effects from FenBen and IVR, and/or they would interfere with other prescribed meds, (e.g. ADT), I will immediately stop taking them.

I also pray to my lord and savior Jesus Christ a lot about all of this.

None of this makes me anti-science in any way, so I hope that's not what's being implied here, but if it is, I'm okay with that too.

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@cxracer

Understand, thanx.

I think we need to be cautious in bringing off "science" topics into play as I have seen folks latch on to "hope" in simplistic solutions.

I think keeping one's medical team informed so if there are drug interactions or you start experiencing side effects, they can advise, is sound practice.

TMI is generally not a thing for me when consulting one's medical team.

I guess my question is how does one separate the impact of things you describe versus treatment based on science, whether you take them together, after completing treatment...

For example, after I completed triplet therapy, I experienced a five year PFS period. Now if I was taking the things you describe during that treatment or PFS period, how do you distinguish if they had any impact...!?

You can't and that's my point.

Too often I see folks in this forum and others posting that these drugs have "controlled" their PCa.

I call BS, they haven't controlled the variables so no way to attribute any cause and effect.

It's like I say when I make a treatment decision, I can't run separate and parallel studies in two different universes of me so we'll never know if I'd done something different, would it have changed the outcome!?

Kevin