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Radiation & Recurrence Treatment (Inside & Outside Prostate)
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@clevelandguy
You say it’s been used for many years, but the people I constantly hear from don’t seem to Corroborate that. Like I say, I have never heard of it being used, And I am seeing and hearing from people constantly, that are talking about their treatments. Do a search for it in this forum. I don’t think you will hear of one case, if it’s so much used, then you sure should hear about it.
It would take many years of evaluation before they know what the real long-term side effects are of doing radiation over what was referred to as maximum lifetime dose of IMRT or SBRT.
Do you personally know people that have had this treatment?
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@jeffmarc Proton beam radiation for prostate cancer treatments have been used for a few decades.
When I was researching this back in 2020, the earliest reference to proton beams being used for prostate cancer treatments that I could find was a 1979 JAMA paper titled “Proton radiation as boost therapy for localized prostatic carcinoma”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/107338/
I was on active surveillance for 9 years (2012-2021) and only did a little looking into this early-on before I started getting serious about the possibility of me needing treatment and needing to dig further for the best treatment for me.
I read about this topic all the time from those who should’ve (and those who wouldn’t have) known better that “…,it’s new, it’s experimental, there’s no data, nothing’s ever been published on it, etc.”
Well, after digging around for a couple of years, I came across that 1979 JAMA article. That is said to be the first paper in the medical literature about treating prostate cancer with protons. Not exactly new….never been done….there isn’t any data on it. It’s been done for a long time, and there’s lots of data on it since then, if one knows where and how to research.
So thankfully, it’s one of the many ways to treat prostate cancer (and the one that I used).
More info:
> the first mention of prostate cancer in medical literature (that I could find) was this 1853 paper in Lancet.
> the first evidence of what they think was prostate cancer was in this mummy from the BC era.
Lots of fascinating information.
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@jeffmarc
Yes on the other forums that I participate in several folks have used Proton radiation for Prostate cancer. Both the Cleveland Clinic and University Hospital in Cleveland have Proton machines(very well known teaching hospitals) it is widely used around the US as a tool to kill cancer. Using Proton as a mop up has been around for a while. What you don’t seem to understand is that it is a completely different technology that uses Proton’s instead of x-ray’s that use photons. Since its a different technology it does not add more x-ray load to a certain area. It kills cancer that were left behind by the x-ray based machine. Different technology but it still kills cancer just like x-rays. Just because you do not know anyone that has used it does not mean it is not a well used technology. It’s just another tool that people can used after an area has been maxed out with other forms of radiation. Don’t discourage people that want to look into this just because you have not heard of it. You should be open to different treatments based on established technology, we are all hear on this forum to learn and discover.