Hello swimmers43, you are a warrior, you have deep resilience, unwavering determination and a relentless desire to keep moving forward despite physical or emotional pain, I admire you, I have given up, that's ok for me, neurologists do not have enough knowledge of our rare, torturing disorder, the horrible meds are a perfect example of the lack of interest in making this disease tolerable, there's not enough of us who have it, I was fortunate to discover Dr. Michael Lim, Johns Hopkins, 2017, I was so desperate with shocking pain, could not take meds, horrible side affects, I even tried to take my life, his Microvascular Decompression operation saved my life, but, after 9 years, the trigeminal neuralgia is rearing its ugly head with this tight, vise like condition in and around my head, this monster hits us in many different ways.