New to the brotherhood, is my event timeline reasonable?
Wish I had found this group much earlier, but thankful to have eventually found you all shortly after my RALP on 8/14/2025. My surgeon is graduate of Mayo Clinic, my wife and I were very comfortable in the decision for surgery. Unfortunately, afterwards pathology found there was bladder neck invasion, so it appears that at some point down the road additional treatment of some form will be required. This discovery has led to some critical thinking, and perhaps I am off base to consider whether further treatment should be taken elsewhere due to a perceived bottleneck of services. I'd appreciate all comments, maybe my timeline is very normal, I simply do not have any experience with an illness of this magnitude. Thankyou in advance for taking the time to read and your opinions.
1/7/2025 Wellness exam, PSA @7.98
1/20/2025 Urologist, digital exam normal, antibiotic for possible urinary infection, retest PSA 6 wks.
3/3/2025 Urologist followup, PSA @ 7.48, recommend MRI with and without contrast.
3/25/2025 MRI performed.
6/17/2025 MRI guided biopsy performed.
6/26/2025 CT PET SCAN performed, prostate contained disease with no spread at this time.
7/16/2025 Review of biopsy & scan results with slight tracer on left 5th rib necessitating a bone scan, decision made for surgery.
7/24/2025 Total Body Bone Scan performed, rib tracer result of old injury.
7/25/2025 Review Bone Scan & Surgery details.
8/14/2025 RALP performed.
8/25/2025 Cystogram performed, catheter removed, review of final pathology results.
Pending Appointments:
9/29/2025 Physical therapy scheduled for pelvic floor evaluation, this was the soonest I could be seen.
11/10/2025 3-Month surgery follow-up with PSA test. Urologist spoke of monitoring PSA, at some point in 1-2 years or more I would be referred for intermodal therapy with a radiation oncologist.
My final surgical pathology report:
Procedure: Radical prostatectomy
Histologic Type: Acinar adeno carcinoma
Histologic Grade: 4+4=8, grade group 4
Minor Tertiary Pattern: 5 (less than 5%): Not identified
Intraductal Carcinoma (IDC): Not identified
Cribriform Glands: Present
Treatment Effect: No known preoperative therapy
Tumor Quantitation: Estimated Percentage of Prostate Involved by Tumor: 31-40%.
EPE: Present, focal, right mid posterior
Urinary Bladder Neck Invasion: Present, right bladder neck
Seminal Vesicle Invasion: Not identified
Lymphvascular Invasion: Not identified
Margin Status: Margins positive for invasive carcinoma, right bladder neck and right posterior mid
Regional Lymph Nodes: Three benign lymph nodes (0/3)
Pathological Staging: pT3a pN0
As mentioned earlier we are comfortable with our urologist, but have recently wondered about the timing of events, which then leads us to wonder if there is a bottleneck of access to services.
Knowing the likelihood of future oncology treatment, would we be better served if we considered seeking getting established sooner preemptively with a center such as Mayo Clinic, John Hopkins, or perhaps Duke Health which is closer to us?
I feel I'm starting to ramble now, so I should probably close now.
Thankyou again for taking the time to read and respond.
Terry
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I am so glad to hear that that you found great cancer center and a doctor who is proactive and who knows what to do - what a relief it must be for you to finally feel listened to and being taken seriously. It is enough anguish to deal with imminent BCR and to deal with ambiguous answers on top of it must have been a nightmare. : ((
My husband had RP in August and his uPSA is creeping up now so I completely understand you.
Would you be so kind to tell me what length of ADT your team recommended ?
Thanks in advance .
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I appreciate your comments and suggestions very much, I'll add them to my notes for next round of questions.
The length of time for ADT will be 6 months.
I did specifically bring up taking Orgovyx, the decision had nothing to do with insurance/cost, and my oncologist took the time to clearly explain the options. I came to feel that Lupron for my situation at this point in time was the better choice, specifically due to the extended tapering off after 6 months should overlay well with the extended effect of radiation once that ends.
I feel that unless there is very good reason Lupron will be a one-time use, with Orgovyx or its replacement will be waiting for future use if needed. I'm otherwise in good health, exercise, and fingers/toes crossed for few side effects.
Thanks again, I appreciate your comments.
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My RP was last August as well, really hoped to have a year or two off the merry-go-round but wasn't meant to be, still have to be thankful for the advancements of modern medicine.
The plan is for me to be on ADT for 6 months.
Prayers for you and your husband.
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With only six months of ADT, you do not need an ARPI.
That sounds like a good plan.
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Thankyou for your opinion, coming from you it helps me feel like I made the right decision.
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Hello Logan. I have had the same initial biopsy as you. After the surgery cancer was found outside the margins with bladder neck involved. That was February 2016. 59 years old. I was suggested , then given 8 weeks of radiation (my only tattoos). Of course since I also had nerve involvement my mojo was gone. Took a while but myself and my wife accepted it. I was after all past the crazy sex days. I went on for 9 years, basically not worrying just getting a psa every year. I moved to Maine, was strong. Eventually my psa began to rise. Was supposed to be undetectable. Long story short I had a pet scan which lit up quite a bit. That was 2024. Went on adt. Quarterly injections ; daily 1000mg abiraterone +prednisone. So far so good. It’s Easter 2026 and besides being a bit weaker than before I’m still here to enjoy my family. I still do most things I always did before, albeit with more difficulty. So my advice is listen to your doctors, keep a good attitude and live. We live with the sword above our necks, but we live. Good luck
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