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What if this prevents cancer from becoming resistant?

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@jeffmarc

Thanks, Jeff.

What if we repeat the combination for 2 or 3 months? And add an additional variation.

Look at this

Cycle 1

2 months - ADT only (decrease testosterone)
2 months - ADT + lutamide (decrease testosterone and reduce "ignition")
3 months - lutamide only (reduce "ignition" increase testosterone)
1 month - no ADT no lutamide ( "let cancer think that wall is no exist ")

Cycle 2

2 months - ADT + lutamide (decrease testosterone and reduce "ignition")
3 months - ADT only (decrease testosterone)
1 month - no ADT no lutamide ( "let cancer think is wall no exist ")
1 month - no ADT no lutamide ( "let cancer think that wall is no exist ") 2 months - lutamide only (reduce "ignition" increase testosterone)

Cycle 3

2 months - ADT + lutamide (decrease testosterone)
1 month - no ADT no lutamide ( "let cancer think that wall is no exist ")
2 months - lutamide only (reduce "ignition" increase testosterone)
3 months - ADT only (decrease testosterone)
....

Cycle 4 (New combination)

Each line can be linked to a PSA increase. As I already mentioned, if the increase is small, the lines are swapped; if the increase is significant, we increase "protection" by using both components over a longer period.

In other words, combinations should not be repeated.

You can consider varying the duration (2-3 months) depending on the Gleason level and PSA increase, and try to find a correlation. It's clear it will be nonlinear. For example, for those with a high Gleason level, they should not go without a moderate level of protection for 3 months (level = duration and combination of ADT and lutamide).

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@denis76
If you’re on ADT for a month or two, your PSA is gonna drop a lot but your testosterone is gonna drop even more unless something is wrong. That testosterone doesn’t come back for a while. Stopping and starting, it isn’t going to help the way you feel.

Stopping and starting a lutamide May or may not make any difference at all. If you have a very serious case and are castrate resistant, then it can raise your PSA a lot, very quickly. If you have a mild case, ADT alone will take care of it and the fact that you’re stopping and starting it won’t matter since the testosterone is not going to rise much.

I don’t think you’re going to get anywhere with these techniques. And then there’s what @northoftheborder has to say, another valid issue You need to consider.