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Glad to share my post RP pathology. I keep it handy. Btw, my highest PSA prior to the RARP was 5.2. My PSA had been rising for several years with an extremely linear velocity (see attached plot).
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AJCC Pathologic Stage: pT2c pN0 pM
Adenocarcinoma, acinar type
Gleason 3 + 4
6% of prostate involved by tumor
No EPE
No seminal vesicle invasion
No lympathic/vascular invasion
Perineural invasion: present

*Positive margin on right apex*

Right dominant tumor with minimal left side involvement.

*Prolaris Score 1.7 with 53% probability of BCR in ten years*
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Despite my 3+4 Gleason score, the positive margin and Prolaris Score were concerning for recurrence. Post-RP, I did quarterly PSA testing for two years, then semi-annual testing for three years, then annual testing for five years. Always had a DRE with each PSA test.

The good news in all this is that my recurrence came ten years later, and when it did, my PSA was barely over the limit of detection (0.1).

I will add that on the PSMA PET scan from last June, the palpable nodule in my fossa had an SUVmax of 13.3. I agree with my urologist and RO that PSA is a much more robust biomarker with decades of science backing it up than any reading of uptake intensity on a PSMA PET scan. The scan provided strong evidence that the nodule is indeed a cancerous lesion/local recurrence. The PSA scores are more telling of the aggressiveness of the cancer.

And yes, despite my sub 0.5 PSA, the PSMA PET scan detected the recurrence. And insurance did provide coverage.

Back in 2014, when I was first diagnosed with PCa, I recall telling my wife and friends, “It’s all just a numbers game with probability tables until you hear the words, “You have cancer”. Then, the numbers are still the numbers, but your emotional reality changes.”

As a career scientist, I tend to stayed focused on what hard data are telling me (and what they aren’t telling me), but the data are only part of the reality of living with cancer. Your post was a powerful reminder of that. Thanks for sharing and bringing that fuller reality to the forefront of my consciousness. I am sure that I am not the only nudged by your post.

Hope the nausea has settled today.

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@melvinw

Thanks so much Melvin for additional information < 3

If it can make you feel any better I think that you have very special guardian angel ; ) who made sure that all is discovered on time against all odds and treated with great success ; ) !!!! *knock the wood

They found a nodule and knew exactly where to treat and as a result cancer was zapped and obliterated once and for all : ))) The only place where you had positive margin was at the apex and it is actually part that is lowest on a gland and closest to rectum and muscles there, so I am sure that nodule was the last remnant and is now eliminated forever *puffff : ))) !
Cheers to that ! : )

@melvinw
That's pretty linear, but with a slight upturn. Do you have a logarithmic graph of that? I always graph my PSA logarithmically, but then I have much larger excursions (see my profile).