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@chippydoo oncologist ordered these scans because I am very high risk. First scan after radiation and being on Firmagon and abiraterone. This scan is making me nervous because it will tell me how effective (or not) my treatments have been. PSA is < .02 but I have read about varieties of PCa that spread without expressing PSA.

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@johndavis60 I have found some mentions in the literature of the rare neuroendocrine type of prostate cancer (NEPC) advancing with PSA < 1.0, and there may be a handful of cases (out of hundreds of thousands) of NEPC advancing with PSA < 0.1, but I have yet to find a mention of progression when PSA is undetectable on the ultrasensitive test (< 0.02 or 0.01). That test wasn't common until recently.

When there's something slightly concerning on a scan, my radiation oncologist does follow up, but as he told me, even NEPC expresses *some* PSA (just a very small amount that older PSA tests couldn't detect, hence the "varieties of PCa that spread without expressing PSA" thing you still read online).

It's normal to be nervous — I am too, before any scan — but you've been a good responder to doublet therapy and your PSA is still undetectable on an ultrasensitive test, so I think it's a pretty-safe bet (as safe as anything is in this world) that if any lucencies do show up in your scan, they will be non-cancer "noise" rather than cancer "signal," as happened to me with an MRI last fall. That's especially common places like the ribs, where scans can't easily distinguish between a cancerous lesion and a bruised rib healing, for example. Radiologists and oncologists have to use their subject-matter expertise, your medical history, and other test results to make a judgement call.

Best of luck!

Caveat: Non-expert layperson writing here. Discuss what I wrote with your onco.

@johndavis60 Thank you for the rest of the story. I can understand your nervousness. Guessing you will be asking about the type of prostate cancer you have? Do you have a high level of Cribriform? I was Gleason 9 Grade 5 with 10% Crib. in one pin. Second opinion research doc yawned and I laughed.