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@brianjarvis AFAIK, there hasn't been a lot of head-to-head overall-survival comparison of the ARSIs (pulling numbers from different studies with different methodologies into the same table or website can be highly misleading), and there haven't been many real-world assessments comparing side-effects, either.

That's what's so interesting about the big retrospective study I shared earlier: it was limited to nmCRPC (probably because -lutamides other than Apalutamide hadn't been approved long enough for mCSPC to provide good samples), and while it found that Apalutamide produced the fewest de-novo central-nervous-system side-effects and Enzalutamide produced the most (with Darolutamide in the middle), they were all so close that it likely doesn't matter to patients, just to the marketing departments at Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer, and Bayer.

tl;dr All the -lutamides are good. Bayer's marketing may be feeding us 🐂💩 about Nubeqa's central-nervous system advantages over the others, while Johnson & Johnson's may be feeding us the same about Erleada's overall survival advantages. I suspect the only reason Pfizer's isn't joining in with Xtandi is that their U.S. Enzalutamide composition patent expires in 2027 anyway. 🤷

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@northoftheborder My thinking is that if funding existed for a head-to-head comparison, that it might get done. Short of that, “pulling numbers from different studies…..” is all that we’ll have available.

As each 2nd generation androgen receptor pathway inhibitor therapy was developed, and side-effects, efficacy, etc, became more understood, the next ARPI was developed to reduce and (hopefully) resolve those known side/effects, then went through clinical trials, and eventually were FDA-approved over a number of years:
> Zytiga (abiraterone): 11/2012
> Xtandi (enzalutimide): 6/2013
> Erleada (apalutimide): 2/2018
> Nubeqa (darolutamide): 8/2022

Unfortunately, each new ARPI introduced its own side-effects, that now the choice of ARPIs - no different from the choice of surgery vs radiation for primary treatment - might primarily come down to which side/after-effect one wants to avoid.