@hotrod83 this is quiet river . she was using Blue emu but for the whole body that isn't cost effective. Her The whole body ackes , My wife has rumatoid Aurthertis and she came to me saying my whole body aches what do you suggest. I use life wave photo light technologe using Acupressure pressure points. So I put life wave Ice patches patahes that I use for pain relief on her arms and legs and the pain was gone. The problem was they say use for 8 hours only and these patches are expensive I replaced them 24 hours later and the pain was still gone. then a big drop in Atmostferic pressure that always caused something to cause pain and she says the Blue emue worked better at that point.. I have been using Life Wave patches them for about 11 years now and became a dristirutor four years ago. There is patches. for everything almost. including cleaning your blood of metals. I do not advertised on this site as I perfer to use only natural nealing that are proven to work. Some people have told me they the patches didn't work for them But the next time they work within 30 seconds. didn't work for them. So I find they are like all natural healing products. Unless you try them you don't know what one is really going to work for you. I'm not w doctor or conected to anyone in the medical field. So I can only tell you what worked for me and those I have helped over the years.