BHRT vs PHRT

Posted by Gloria Squitiro @squitirogloria, Feb 5 10:30am

Hello Wonderful People,

I've been reading a lot of entries from this site, and have gained such valuable information, including peace of mind! So, thank you for that.

I signed up with Doug Lucas's one-on-one program because it's a one-stop shop dedicated to reversing osteoporosis, which is my mission.

There's been a lot of discussion on this site about BHRT. But I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with PHRT?

Wishing you all a lovely day, Gloria

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Osteoporosis & Bone Health Support Group.

I know I am a broken record here but please do NOT ask people here, rando internet folks (no matter how helpful) how much of X supplement you should take, nor if you should add or subtract anything. These are questions for your medical team. There are medical conditions and medications you may have or may be on that may contraindicate those. Yes, listen to people’s own experiences, do your research, but do NOT seek medical advice here. Sites like this are for sharing experiences, not diagnosis and medical advice and this INCLUDES supplements. People seem to forget supplements are really no different from medication. Please seek advice from your medical team.

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@sophies
was I advised by a doctor?
Well, that is an interesting story. I was seeing an endocrinologist; started an osteo drug that was having no effect except to make me ill. The endo had told me about a new drug in Europe with great results; I researched it and found that all it was was strontium joined to an additive that could be patented.
So I dropped the osteo drug; began the strontium citrate and viola no side effects, and my first better dexa. Confessed to my endo; he called a bunch of other experts and said "change nothing". Every dexa was better, no fractures no side effects; that endo released me saying "you don't need me anymore and change nothing".

No, the endo didn't care about the 10 % over read on dexa; he and I both could do the math easily. Plus, now we have TBS and REMS and neither overreads strontium.

Bone is always going to degrade if you stop calcium or lose hormones or in this case stop strontium. I did stop for awhile, and I lost a very small percent of my bone density not even the 10% that I thought it was overreading.

Well, all the research says that strontium is safe and since it is in the ground water of most of the world, most of its food and sometimes higher in ground water than the dose which I take, I think that history shows it is safe with no pockets of cardio problems etc showing up in population studies. There have been instances of short, thicker boned people; what I read was that they were treated with calcium. Can't find that link but I will keep looking; I saw it years ago.

The research on stontium via citrate also shows safety as does the research on strontium via ranelate. There is one population study on strontium via ranelate that seemed to show some cardio problems, but that study included people with cardio problems so duh. Several countries redid the study over a period of several years and found no cardio problems or any other dangerous side effects.

So the calcium /strontium ratio is important....always more calcium.

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@kathleen1314
HI, thanks for your reply. Do you mind sharing your age and your total time on other meds as well as how long you have been taking strontium and what total gains you have had? Can't find viola so don't know what it is....Thanks!!!

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Well, I am 73.
I was on osteoporosis meds long enough to have a couple of dexas and develop a side effect with which I chose not to live.
I started strontium in 2009.
I was -2.8 in my femoral area;

Latest Dexa with TBS
in december 2025
-0.7 in my L femoral area
Total hip 1.1
3.1 spine

with tbs scores
-0.2 Femoral L
Total hip 1.6
Spine 4.2

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@squitirogloria
I am sorry that you are having problems with cronometer. If myfitnesspal works better for you and can measure everything which you need then I would continue with it.
I admit that with my recipes, I just guess the closest amounts etc and input them.

We usually take strontium the last thing at night just to keep it away from all calcium. Some users do take it in the morning and then load up on their calcium the rest of the day. Usually 2 to 3 hours is enough to allow the body to absorb the strontium, and there is some discussion if even that is needed since someone thinks they may have discovered a receptor just for strontium.

So yes, just try to not take calcium for a few hours in case the body ignores the strontium and just absorbs the calcium.

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@kathleen1314 Thank you for responding, as always, Kathleen!

I need to learn how to use cronometer because that's the app that Doug Lucas's program works with.

Thank you, too, for the advice on strontium.

Wishing you a lovely day!

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I know I am a broken record here but please do NOT ask people here, rando internet folks (no matter how helpful) how much of X supplement you should take, nor if you should add or subtract anything. These are questions for your medical team. There are medical conditions and medications you may have or may be on that may contraindicate those. Yes, listen to people’s own experiences, do your research, but do NOT seek medical advice here. Sites like this are for sharing experiences, not diagnosis and medical advice and this INCLUDES supplements. People seem to forget supplements are really no different from medication. Please seek advice from your medical team.

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@ccps101 I bet most people on this site are seeking advice from their medical team. More, and that some of the advice they're getting is not well founded.

It seems most everyone here are grown adults who are gathering information from many different sites, researching that information, and then making an informed decision for ourselves.

This is social media. I've learned so much from others here who've shared their experiences. I would surely hate to see posts censored.

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@ccps101 I bet most people on this site are seeking advice from their medical team. More, and that some of the advice they're getting is not well founded.

It seems most everyone here are grown adults who are gathering information from many different sites, researching that information, and then making an informed decision for ourselves.

This is social media. I've learned so much from others here who've shared their experiences. I would surely hate to see posts censored.

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@squitirogloria I've learned a ton as well! I value information from my doctors, but sometimes it is not forthcoming. Information from all sources is welcome to me, anecdotal and otherwise. NIH studies are also helpful to me and pooling advice with friends who are gathering information and doing some of the same things I am. We fill the gaps in each others' knowledge sometimes. Doctors are sometimes helpful in giving you part of the picture. We need to find out much more from other sources as well. Thanks to everyone in this forum!

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@squitirogloria I've learned a ton as well! I value information from my doctors, but sometimes it is not forthcoming. Information from all sources is welcome to me, anecdotal and otherwise. NIH studies are also helpful to me and pooling advice with friends who are gathering information and doing some of the same things I am. We fill the gaps in each others' knowledge sometimes. Doctors are sometimes helpful in giving you part of the picture. We need to find out much more from other sources as well. Thanks to everyone in this forum!

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@gargoy Totally agree.

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