Bone Health Trestment
Looking for otc possibilities during breast cancer treatment. I am currently on Anastrozole. Looking at an otc supplement called AlgaeCal. Am open to suggestions. This supplement is directed toward bone health.
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@oopsiedaisy Like you, I have/am considering taking Strontium supplements. Significantly worse T-scores than I have now would most likely push me over the threshold and I would take SrC now. Strontium may well significantly help reduce fractures. But Sr comes at a cost of probably making your DEXA scan appear artificially inflated with bone density looking better than is the case. And that cost lasts 10+ years.
The Mirza study link that @kathleen1314 helpfully provides above includes the below excerpts of the type of information that still makes me hang back from Sr:
"... Due to its high molecular weight, this 1% incorporation of Sr causes an
average overestimation of BMD of 10% [15]. Following 10 years
of SrR therapy, most of the Sr content is still retained ..."
"... Much of the bone density increase being seen with
SrC is likely due to the replacement of calcium with strontium in
the bone. Strontium has a larger atomic weight than calcium (38
vs 20), which causes it to attenuate X-rays more strongly than
calcium. Hence the readings on the DEXA scan appear artificially
inflated with bone density looking better than is the case. ..."
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2 Reactions@kfhoz
The dexa scan skew from denser strontium is no longer considered a concern. This is because TBS and REMS are not affected by strontium's denser weight and both show good density and bone quality for strontium users.
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3 Reactions@oopsiedaisy
It’s true that different salts can behave differently in the body, but in this case the absorption argument doesn’t really hold. Studies show that strontium ranelate and strontium citrate have similar fractional absorption once they dissociate in the gut — the main difference is just the amount of elemental strontium per dose. And because both deliver the same Sr²⁺ ion, the bone‑cell mechanisms demonstrated in ranelate studies remain relevant to citrate.
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1 Reaction@oopsiedaisy Were you unable to tolerate Tymlos and Forteo? Just wondering why only 5 months on the one and 2 months on the other. Would love to hear your density results when you complete Evenity!
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What change have evenity, Fosamax or Tymlos or Forteo made in your osteoporosis for the better. Hopefully, you are now in normal bone density territory with normal TBS with no fractures and no side effects. I think it helps all of us to see and celebrate one another's good results.
I am a strontium citrate user with BHRT and all the usual suspects of exercise and needed nutrition. I have been in normal bone density territory for years, never diminishing since I began strontium citrate. I had a normal TBS report this past December. All without any side effects and no fractures.
I hope the best for everyone's chosen bone plan. Indeed, I rejoice over anyone's gains. We are all in this together.
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2 Reactions@kathleen1314 I heard that people get better scores from strontium, but question the actual effect on bones…I am concerned about adding another med and possible drug interactions…that said, many people here seem to be very happy with results from strontium.
@kathleen1314 My bone density has been stable for years. Osteopenia in my spine, hips just into the osteoporosis range. It improved on Fosamax for the first two years then decreased slightly.
I don't have another DEXA until July so we'll see how it looks.
I don't judge my outcome by T-scores, though. Clearly, I have underlying issues because I fractured my spine even with a T-score that was in osteopenic range. I use fractures as my outcome measurement.
I have not fractured for 2.5 years despite an extremely active lifestyle so I am happy with that.
Recently, it was discovered that I have idiopathic hypercalciuria which may have contributed to my osteoporosis. My dad had a similar issue; never diagnosed with osteoporosis as it pre-dated DEXA scanning. IH looks to be genetic so I may have inherited the tendency from him.
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1 Reaction@nycmusic
Well, there are biopsies and research to show that the strontium effect is actual good density and bone quality. Plus, now REMS and TBS scores backs up those biopsies and research.
Yes, it is hard to argue with strontium's good bone density, good bone quality (TBS) no side effects, no fractures and no worries about osteonecrosis of the jaw (ONJ) (jawbone death), atypical femur fractures (thigh bone snaps), and severe kidney issues as are seen in many osteoporosis drugs.
Plus, strontium may be stopped or begun without concerns, unlike many osteoporosis drugs.
As a conservative treatment goes, it seems to me to be a more conservative move to consider before osteoporosis drugs. But the decision of what osteoporosis intervention to use is based on more than biopsies, research and TBS , REMS and DEXA results; there is an element of emotion and the need to feel safe and secure which has to be met in different ways for different people.
And a community that supports all our choices and celebrates our wins is valuable to all of us.
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Yes, I think that you have a good hope of a "cure" when your hypercalciuria is under control.
It is difficult if not impossible for any drug or supplement to change the course of an untreated disease.
I think that you will have great results when the idiopathic hypercalciuria is under control.
I really think that eventually you will view this diagnosis as great news for you.
@kathleen1314 thanks for that detail…is there a prescription quality strontium citrate ! Supplements can be questionable…..or do you know a good brand that has been properly vetted ?