@heavyphil We are soooo on the same page. Let’s face it. Doctors don’t get paid by not treating you. Most will recommend treatment and justify it by telling themselves they are only doing what’s best for “you.” There are a few honest ones though…honest with you and honest with themselves. Finding one is the trick. Luckily, I had a visit with a doctor at Loma Linda University Medical Center in California early on in my diagnosis. At that point, I had just been diagnosed by an Arizona urologist with a PSA of 4.2 and out of a 12 core biopsy, only 2 showed 3+3 Gleason score cells. Additionally, only 1/3 of those 2 cores contained those 3+3 cells. The AZ doc wanted to take out my prostate. Fast forward to the Loma Linda doctor and we had an hour and a half discussion about PC and almost every other thing under the sun. He was in no rush. He spent time with me. At the very end of our discussion, he said something that hit home. He said, “You know, sometimes the best treatment is no treatment.” That led me to my decision of watchful waiting and I have been doing that ever since. I’m 76 and my PSA is now 10.3. Who knows how much of that score is simply age related BPH? My point here is that too many men are rushed into the operating room or put on drugs for a condition that would most likely allow them to live long enough to die of something else. The scare tactics that some physicians use to rush patients into treatment are reprehensible.