@faithfully123 I have to say I totally agree with you, why is it in stage 3 we are told this news. I hate to say it but once a person needs dialysis...it is a costly procedure isnt it? Someone's making $$ it's a business at the end of the day. Sadly. I want to share what I found and some of you may already know if it. A book by "Yaw A. Boateng, MD. PhD. Reverse Chronic Kidney disease" he writes of certain vitamins teas like green tea, black coffee with scientific backing to support recommendations. He says and I quote, from this book "can CKD be improved or reversed? According to available scientific and medical literature the answer is yes. Most people aren't aware of this good news is partly why I have written this book. In conventional med, many practitioners believe and teach that it is irreversible and progressive. This is how we are taught. But more physicians and researchers are recognizing there is a possibility and a probability it can be reversed. But won't come easily with current conventional treatments. Some are looking at unconventional, complementary methods" this is a book I will need to order. I am thinking of acupuncture as a compliment. I think this information is a step beyond what we have available, and it seems their are major issues. Donna