@vklittle61 @pfbacon Think of MFR like this. Think about kneading bread dough. You sink in and push, but when you push stop and hold it. What the therapist does is to feel the tension in the fascia when they push and they keep tension on it until it moves. They see which direction moves the easiest and sometimes they push against that first, and then change the angle when it starts to slide. It has to be a shearing action, and it isn't a hard push at all, you gently go to the barrier and hold it. There is a video in the MFR discussion where you can see John Barnes do this and explain it. https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/myofascial-release-therapy-mfr-for-treating-compression-and-pain/