Widespread Skeletal Metastatic
Bone scan last week. Just received the report online.
Widespread skeletal metastasis lower cervical, thoracic, lumbar spine, ribs, sternum, pelvis, femurs.
Damn.
Didn’t think it was that widespread. MRI was done on Monday to see if anything close to the spinal column.
Chemo (triple therapy) starts next Friday (13 February).
Trying to remain hopeful.
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We are in BC and the oncologist overseeing his care is in Kelowna.
The rest of the team is closer to us in Trail and Nelson. All have been wonderful and I feel he is in good hands.
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❝PSA testing is not done here on a routine basis.❞
Unfortunately, that's a global phenomenon. The USPSTF in the U.S. misguidedly declared in 2012 that routine PSA screening was unnecessary, and public health authorities in other countries quickly followed suit (including Canada in 2014, as @colleenyoung mentioned).
Not every doctor or facility is convinced though. My brother (in a different Ontario city) was getting routine PSA screening even before I was diagnosed, and a hospital roommate I had was getting the same through the Canadian military. Some Americans in this list were still getting routine PSA screening despite the USPSTF recommendation, while others weren't.
The number of de-novo advanced prostate cancer cases has skyrocketed since 2012, so health authorities are now under increasing pressure to admit that they were (tragically) wrong and reverse their recommendation.
If it's any cold comfort, the type of aggressive prostate cancer that your husband and I have — the one that hits young and metastasises easily — often spreads so fast that even annual PSA screening can't catch it in time. I've not only read that in a scholarly paper, but had it confirmed by my ex-military hospital roommate, whose annual PSA screening didn't prevent him from ending up with bone-metastatic prostate cancer in his 50s.
So you'll never know for sure if annual PSA screening would have prevented your husband's situation. It might have (and will for many men), but it might not have, so there's no point beating yourselves up about it now. It's an unknowable.
Just keep spreading the word for men you know over 40 to ask for (or *insist on*) annual PSA screening, even if they have to pay the CA $30–40 cost themselves.
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7 Reactions@canadaanne I believe the Sindi Ahluwalia Hawkins Cancer Centre in Kelowna is affiliated with the UBC medical school, so there will be oncology researchers and teachers there, up to date on the latest developments.
That's the important thing, and would explain why your husband's oncology team is following new best practices like triplet therapy. It sounds like he's in good hands.
The top cancer centre in Canada is at Princess Margaret Hospital in Toronto (it's ranked in the global top 10), but any university-affiliated regional cancer centre — especially in a rich province like Ontario, Alberta, or BC — will offer an excellent quality of care.
Since you're in BC, I think you'd consider somewhere like Princess Margaret or Toronto's Sunnybrook Health Centre (famous for developing TULSA-PRO) only for a very rare cancer or unusual situation, or for the chance to participate in a trial; otherwise, I don't think there would be any advantage to justify the travel costs and paperwork of getting treatment in a different province.
Stay subborn, and best of luck! ❤️
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He is a very young 75 (15 years my senior). Up until a short time ago, he was walking daily, golfing at least 2x a week, riding an ebike (big hills where we live).
I hear what you are saying though about the aggressive cancer though, and who knows if it could have been caught sooner - I am just trying to focus on today and what can be done. Sometimes that’s hard though, but I’m determined to be optimistic and strong for him.
I’m pretty vocal usually, and you can bet I’ll be telling (nagging?) anyone with a prostate to get their testing!
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thats what happened to me- no PSA testing..and then COVID- couldnt get in to se a doc.several women docs assigned by my healthcare providor were very non chalant about doing the throrough physical..I guess they didn want to deal with a older guy..( but they took my money and gave half assed medical services)
and then May 2025..PSA was tested and it was 43...after less than 6 mos, my PSA was down to < .01 with Orgovyx and Nubeqa plus 45 EBRT sessions..so maybe I am not dead man walking ..time will tell.
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Did he have any pains at all?
I’m scared I have in my bones.
Sorry. I see this has been asked and answered.
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1 Reaction@asgmiami1 He did have lower back pain that radiated down his leg.
It is gone now with the treatment (Relugolix). He was using a cane and could barely walk. He hasn't used the cane for about a month and is pretty much pain free.
I hope it's not in your bones, but if it is, there are treatments to help as we have found out.
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1 Reaction@canadaanne I am so happy to hear that Orgovyx is helping so quickly, and that he's walking without a cane again.
Celebrate every victory!
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4 ReactionsI just posted our situation under Fred’s Caring Bridge. We are in a similar diagnosis. We are trying an experimental therapy this month. We would like to hear about your progress, and if we have any good news we will tell you
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2 Reactions@northoftheborder The use of PSA for screening is widespread in the US and catches many cases. One I know of is 42 yo. The USPSTF recommendation was rescinded years ago. The OP must have gone years without PSA testing and now he has widespread mets in his bones. And as seen elsewhere, Canada has not made the PSMA PET scan readily available in the Provinces. Looking at grayscale bone scans is signficantly inferior to a PSMA PET scan image.
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