@bizzy I also had spinal surgery L4,5 about a year and a half ago where they put in a coflex device to seperate the vertebre. It was very successful. Now have other back issues and am working with the neuro surgeon. Others have said they have also had the same experience after spinal surgery. Although, after a nerve conduction test I was told it is not gererated from my spine. Accupuncture will be my go to from now on. I am 79, ride my bike, walk, do pilaties, so very active. I just push through. Im afraid to stop!