50 and Full of Life. Need advice. TULSA or HIFU or what?

Posted by cxracer @cxracer, Jan 12 8:46am

We're all here for the same reason, so I'll try to keep my introduction short.

I'm 50, still very young (IMO), full of energy, extremely active, healthy, and have a satisfying and active sex life with my wife. I began chasing increasing pelvic and low back pain in mid-late 2025 that I attributed to bicycle riding and racing. PSA scores of 6.2 and 6.6, followed by CT, MRI and biopsy confirmed Gleason 3+4 cancer, (Favorable Intermediate). Local urologist is a surgeon and recommends surgery / removal. Local oncologist is a radiologist, refers to it as Unfavorable Intermediate, and recommends EBRT and ADT (hormone therapy).

I'm an analyst by trade and don't like either of these options, due to their side effects directly impacting my quality of life, which I hope to be as long as possible.

I'm working with my local urologist and insurance company (BCBS) to provide me with an approved out-of-network referral to Mayo (Rochester), and in the meantime have a Mayo consult scheduled for Jan 15th. I have no idea what treatment options will be recommended, but I pray to God they're better than the two antiquated ones that have been recommended locally.

TULSA looks extremely promising to me, as well as HIFU, and I believe I am a qualified candidate for both.

Are there specific questions you all suggest I ask in my consult? Any other treatment options I should ask about specifically? Do you need me to provide additional specific info about my cancer in order to provide quality feedback?

Thanks in advance, and I've already gleaned a ton of info from reading may of the discussions here.

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@jeffmarc Do you know if the TULSA Pro procedure is performed at the Mayo Clinic in Phoenix, Arizona?

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@tdoriausername
Mayo Clinic offers the TULSA-PRO procedure across its main campuses in Rochester, Minnesota, and Jacksonville, Florida,

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@service1010 HIFU does not seem as precise in delivery of the Ultra Sound. TULSA Pro probe will cool the urethra and the colon to avoid damage to those areas while heat from the probe can be adjusted in its intensity, which allows for more accurate ablation. The technician/physician can actually see the heat markers on screen and adjust according to the shape and size of the lesion. Heat can be turned up in one area while turned down in another and the heat signatures on screen can tell the technician where to adjust. I just think one has a better shot of getting the entire lesion or lesions ablated with TULSA Pro than with HIFU. This is just my layman's opinion after my own research.

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@tdoriausername I agree. I did Tulsa and described it as HIFU on steroids. It seems to be much more precise. My Radiologist said Tulsa gives him a level of precision he has never had before when using ablation to treat cancers.

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@charlesprestridge
I have always leaned toward TULDA Pro. I even applied for the clinical trials but didn’t make it. I would choose TULSA over HIFU if I had the money but nobody will accept Medicare and my plan G supplement as payment. They all want $30K or more to do it. Ssd

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@tdoriausername Medicare and my BCBS supplement covered all of my cost for Tulsa at Mayo.

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@service1010 HIFU does not seem as precise in delivery of the Ultra Sound. TULSA Pro probe will cool the urethra and the colon to avoid damage to those areas while heat from the probe can be adjusted in its intensity, which allows for more accurate ablation. The technician/physician can actually see the heat markers on screen and adjust according to the shape and size of the lesion. Heat can be turned up in one area while turned down in another and the heat signatures on screen can tell the technician where to adjust. I just think one has a better shot of getting the entire lesion or lesions ablated with TULSA Pro than with HIFU. This is just my layman's opinion after my own research.

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@tdoriausername Great explanation. Thank you

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@cxracer

Just watched a good video. You can search for it on youtube.

Dr Geo podcast

What is HIFU, How it works & Who’s the best patient for this treatment - 158

Dr Matthew Cooperberg was very good.

He stated a few times:
- Focal therapies like HIFU will be better (most of the time) for the patient as far as incontinence and erection.
- There is no 10-15 year data to compare risk of cancer reoccurrence (Focal Therapy vs RP). His words are much better than what I just wrote.

For me, it was a good informative video.

Best Wishes.

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@charlesprestridge Watched. Really good vid

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@tdoriausername Medicare and my BCBS supplement covered all of my cost for Tulsa at Mayo.

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@jcf58 Hi: Would you mind saying which Mayo clinic performed the TULSA Pro for you and what were the results of the treatment? Thanks.

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@tdoriausername
Mayo Clinic offers the TULSA-PRO procedure across its main campuses in Rochester, Minnesota, and Jacksonville, Florida,

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@jeffmarc Guess I'm out of luck. I live near Phoenix, Arizona.

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@jcf58 Hi: Would you mind saying which Mayo clinic performed the TULSA Pro for you and what were the results of the treatment? Thanks.

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Rochester-July 2024. Gleason 4+3, 30% of prostate ablated. PSA of 8.6 prior and holding steady at 0.7 ever since. Mayo declared no evidence of disease in July 2025. Zero side effects.

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@tdoriausername
Rochester-July 2024. Gleason 4+3, 30% of prostate ablated. PSA of 8.6 prior and holding steady at 0.7 ever since. Mayo declared no evidence of disease in July 2025. Zero side effects.

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@jcf58 What method was used to ablate 30% of your prostate?

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