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@alandy233 I'm sorry you are having such difficult problems with your vision. I was fortunate that my vision was saved by infusions similar to what you received and 6 weeks of 60 mg prednisone per day followed by a slow taper over the next year. I also began taking weekly injections of Actemra 6 weeks after I was diagnosed with GCA and PMR. That helped me to eventually get off of prednisone.

I am surprised that none of you doctors have suggested Actemra. Is there some medical reason they aren't prescribing it for you? When I google "does Actemra help preserve vision in gca?", it says the following:

"Yes, Actemra (tocilizumab) helps preserve vision in Giant Cell Arteritis (GCA) by acting as an effective "rescue" therapy for patients whose vision worsens despite high-dose steroids, potentially preventing further loss or even improving existing vision, especially when started early in resistant cases, though its main role is reducing steroid dependence and flares, according to Ophthalmolgy Advisor and National Institutes of Health (NIH).

How it helps:
Rescue Therapy: It's used when standard steroid treatment isn't enough to stop vision loss, with studies showing it can rescue vision in some patients with glucocorticoid-resistant GCA, note Ophthalmology Advisor and National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Prevents New Loss: In patients without visual symptoms at the start of Actemra, new ocular problems often don't develop, according to a study in Sage Journals.

Improves Existing Loss: Some patients with vision loss (PVL) before starting Actemra have shown improvement, particularly if treatment begins sooner, state National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Sage Journals.

Reduces Steroid Taper Relapses: Actemra helps patients stay in remission longer while tapering off corticosteroids, reducing relapse risk, according to Review of Ophthalmology and The New England Journal of Medicine.

Key Takeaway: Actemra is a crucial tool in managing GCA, offering hope for preserving vision when steroids fall short, but its effectiveness is highest when used strategically, often in combination with steroids, and continued long-term to prevent flares, notes YouTube and The New England Journal of Medicine. "

Actemra can take up to 3 months to take full effect, so the other medications might be needed to control your GCA until the Actemra can take effect.

I am not sure about this group, but I know that there are several members of the PMRGCAuk support group that have lost at least some of their vision from GCA. You could check with them about your issues. You can go to healthunlocked.com and join the PMRGCAuk community so that you can post to that group.

In regard to what your ophthalmologist is trying to accomplish with your medications, I think he or she is trying to get your GCA under control. Apparently last year your taper was too fast, or else you could be resistant to steroids, so your doctor is starting you back at a high dose of prednisone plus the methotrexate. The folic acid is needed to offset the side effects of the methotrexate.

Please let me know if I can help you in any other way.

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@jeff97 I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your response. Your message has given me more useable and valuable information in the short time that it took you to write it than I have gotten in the entire ten months that I have been dealing with this. Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU!!!!!

As to your question as to why my Doctor is not advocating for Actemra I can only speculate but I suspect that perhaps he does not have as strong of or the type of "relationship" that he may have with the manufacturer of Actemra as he has with the manufacturer of Methotrexate. I worked for Baxter Healthcare 30 years ago and we gave huge perks to providers that we had strong "relationships with ands in this instance "relationship is spelled "profits". I'm not meaning to be snarky, it's the way of the world.

I also believe that I am his first patient who is dealing with GCA induced vision loss. He has been very cautious in his approaches to treatment for me. I believe this is one reason and maybe the main one why his Prednisone tablet dosages for me have been so low. From all i am seeing for GCA and vison loss 20Mg a day is a very low dose. At one point me had me down to 10Mg a day. We found out in very short order that that was just not working and doing more harm than good so he upped it to 20Mg per day and I have been there for a while.

Another possible factor is that I believe my Doctor is trying to reduce or manage possible side effects. My research is indicating that Actemra has in some cases greater, more, and worse side effects than Methotrexate does. I will be talking with him tomorrow about Actemra. Again, thank you. I will keep you and this group advised.