@joy75 Just ten minutes? So typical of our health care system today. About ten years ago I had terrible back pain due to a fall. I went to three different orthopedic surgeons. Each one told me, in a similar way, that there was nothing he/she could do to help me. This was after a cursory inspection of my first MRI. Well, I kept searching and was directed to a neurologist who spent an hour and a half checking me over. Ultimately, I was prescribed a cocktail of meds that gave me my life back. So, we have to be our own best advocates. Have a blessed day.