@gypsyblue Thank you so much! I have just gotten an MRI after months of being put through PT that did not help, and being offered injections or surgery. I am going to be discussing which red light/far infrared device I should get with my primary care physician, IF I can get her attention. Appointments are now being scheduled out weeks and months in advance around here. Meanwhile, I am sure this condition only progresses, and I am living with constant pain, as I try to continue with my life. I just turned 70 and retired from an intense academic position this past year. I have been very active all my life as a professional theatre maker. I had planned to go back to pursuing professional work in "retirement," but this pain is exhausting me, and trying to find the right treatment among doctors who simply do not listen to my concerns has been equally if not more exhausting. I am hoping with the MRI results, I can finally choose the right pain management/pain relief path. Your response is very helpful!