Loose knee implant

Posted by lmc @lmc, Jul 21, 2024

I had TKR 14 months ago and the surgery was unsuccessful. Now, I am told that the implant is loose. It slips out of position each time I move.
Has anyone had this experience? What is done to rectify this situation?

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@JustinMcClanahan I saw my surgeon yesterday. He said that my replacement is fine. The problem is with muscle atrophy. I need to try and strengthen my quads.

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That may be the case, but might be more than the quad impacting what is going on. But nothing wrong with trying to strengthen all the muscles that support knee joint. Including hamstrings and glutes, we often forget about the posterior chain a.k.a. backside in favor of like the front muscles, but it all works in tandem. And even core strengthening exercises, they can support your skeletal system and take the load off your lower body when your trunk is strong. Everything else is supported..... I know I am biased because I'm a Pilates instructor. 😉

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That may be the case, but might be more than the quad impacting what is going on. But nothing wrong with trying to strengthen all the muscles that support knee joint. Including hamstrings and glutes, we often forget about the posterior chain a.k.a. backside in favor of like the front muscles, but it all works in tandem. And even core strengthening exercises, they can support your skeletal system and take the load off your lower body when your trunk is strong. Everything else is supported..... I know I am biased because I'm a Pilates instructor. 😉

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@aliciavillarosa thank you!

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It has been over 2 years since my total knee replacement and I have had nothing but trouble with it. It has been deemed a failed surgery with pain which still wakes me up at night, swelling, and clicking or popping in and around the implant. Within the next 2 weeks, I will be seeing the knee surgeon and will BEG him to order an MRI of the knee. By the way, my original surgeon retired since the surgery and passed me along to a "fresh set of eyes" as he said before he dumped me. The popping and snapping of the joint is getting worse.

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@lmc I was taken by your "BEG him to order an MRI." During my eight year experience with knee pain following a TKR and a revision I have had every exam from x-rays to bone scans but never an MRI. I've requested an MRI of many different Orthos during this period and always denied with some vaque reasoning. I don't know why there's a reluctance to obtain any additional information that may explain our pain.

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@SusanEllen66, I moved your post about your knee implant becoming lose to a discussion titled:

"Loose knee implant"
- https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/loose-knee-implant/

I'd like to introduce you to @aliciavillarosa, @azi7, @lmc and @ginger9708 who all discussed issues with loose knee replacement components.

@SusanEllen66, how long ago was your replacement? Was it suggested that you have a revision or a new replacement to address the loosening of your knee replacement?

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@JustinMcClanahan it was 2020. According to the surgeon it is a weak muscle.

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@lmc I was taken by your "BEG him to order an MRI." During my eight year experience with knee pain following a TKR and a revision I have had every exam from x-rays to bone scans but never an MRI. I've requested an MRI of many different Orthos during this period and always denied with some vaque reasoning. I don't know why there's a reluctance to obtain any additional information that may explain our pain.

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@ouch89 I didn’t an have an MRI, X-ray only.

MRI are expensive. Maybe your insurance company might not pay.

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@ouch89 I didn’t an have an MRI, X-ray only.

MRI are expensive. Maybe your insurance company might not pay.

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@SusanEllen66
I believe it's not the doctor's role to consider whether or not the insurance will pay and focus on the medical issue. Also, if the doctor thinks my insurance may not pay he should communicate that with me. Whatever my out-of-pocket costs may be it's a pittance compared to the thousands of dollars already spent to obtain relief.

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@lmc I was taken by your "BEG him to order an MRI." During my eight year experience with knee pain following a TKR and a revision I have had every exam from x-rays to bone scans but never an MRI. I've requested an MRI of many different Orthos during this period and always denied with some vaque reasoning. I don't know why there's a reluctance to obtain any additional information that may explain our pain.

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@ouch89
I had an MRI, it was almost unreadable due to the negative effect the metal (titanium) in the implant had on the magnetic resonance imaging.

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@SusanEllen66
I believe it's not the doctor's role to consider whether or not the insurance will pay and focus on the medical issue. Also, if the doctor thinks my insurance may not pay he should communicate that with me. Whatever my out-of-pocket costs may be it's a pittance compared to the thousands of dollars already spent to obtain relief.

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@ouch89 Doctors also know which imaging to use to diagnose specific issues. An MRI is not generally useful around a metal implant, if an x-ray does not provide sufficient information, the doctor can order a CT scan. BUT, it is becoming evident that overuse of scans is dangerous because of excessive radiation exposure (at least 4 to 20 times more than an x-ray) is being shown to be a cancer risk.

I have a lung disease that is typically monitored via CT scan every year or two. But since my disease now appears to be stable my 2 pulmonologists have decided there will be no more CT's unless my health gets worse - a little scary, but...

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I'm requesting an MRI because my previous doctor diagnosed that I have a loose implant based on a Bone Scan. Having had so many bogus diagnosis I went to another doctor seeking an MRI. My new doctor agreed that an MRI is generally better than a bone scan for diagnosing a loose knee implant, and elaborated with medical reasons why an MRI and SPECT/CT being the top choices for accuracy in loosening. I'm leaning towards my new doctor because he's unwilling to do another revision without 100% certainty I have a loose implant. An MRI is generally safe with modern metal knee implants, as they are made from non-magnetic materials like titanium alloys. Wishing you well in your lung recovery.

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