Received the news on Halloween. I have prostate cancer. Need advice.

Posted by frank1956 @frank1956, Nov 1 7:26pm

I previously had 2 benign biopsies in 2024. Urologist/Oncologist asked to follow up in a year. So on September 2025, I did PSA (5.4) and MRI (2 legions PI-RADS3, and PI-RADS4). These 2 legions are similar in size with the previous 2 MRI's from 2024.
Doctor ordered a biopsy. On Halloween day, the report came and it shows out of 18 cores, there are 2 Gleason 6, and 1 Gleason 7 (3+4), which is with 40% core, and G4 is 10%.
I am scheduled to see my Urologist/Oncologist on Wednesday. I will ask for a Decipher or Polaris test and a PSMA scan. Maybe a genetic test to check BRCA1, BRCA2 genes?
I am not sure what else to ask from the doctor. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

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I am the OP.

It took a while to get the other test results in. My Decipher score is 0.57. Intermediate risk, very close to the high risk area of 0.60. PSMA shows the same 2 legions inside prostate, but no where else. I also did a Color Health saliva test that shows negative of all 29 cancer genes they tested.

I met with my UCLA Urologic Oncologist. He said due to my high Decipher score, he does not recommend Active Surveillance. I asked for referrals. His office set up appointments for me with Dr Kishan on Jan, 9th, 2026 for Radiation consultation, and Dr Reiter on Jan 21, 2026 for surgery.

My Oncologist said wait for another 3-4 months is probably OK since the actual treatment may be months away. Meanwhile, I am doing a lot of research on SBRT and Brachytherapy, but I need to talk to Dr Kishan first so he can evaluate me for best modality. Though I have an appointment with the surgeon, I am really not sure about surgery. If Dr Kishan's consultation can give me confidence, I might cancel the appointment with Dr Reiter later.

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@frank1956 How old are you Frank? 70ish is really the grey area if your handle ‘1956’ refers to that.
PCa is tricky and sometimes even with all the boxes checked off , it can come back. The forum is full of us in our second, third and even fourth go rounds.
Radiation may be an excellent choice for your condition, but - and this is purely speculative on my part!- if your cancer returns and you are still hale and hearty in your late 70’s or early 80’s, you WILL need a backup plan.
Sometimes, even though it sounds distasteful, surgery is an excellent treatment as well (possibly curative, as is radiation) but offers the dividend of being able to do radiation down the road if necessary. To do the reverse - radiation first and surgery second - is not frequently successful.
Just food for thought as you navigate your way through these confusing stats, outcomes and recommendations.
Best
Phil

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@frank1956 How old are you Frank? 70ish is really the grey area if your handle ‘1956’ refers to that.
PCa is tricky and sometimes even with all the boxes checked off , it can come back. The forum is full of us in our second, third and even fourth go rounds.
Radiation may be an excellent choice for your condition, but - and this is purely speculative on my part!- if your cancer returns and you are still hale and hearty in your late 70’s or early 80’s, you WILL need a backup plan.
Sometimes, even though it sounds distasteful, surgery is an excellent treatment as well (possibly curative, as is radiation) but offers the dividend of being able to do radiation down the road if necessary. To do the reverse - radiation first and surgery second - is not frequently successful.
Just food for thought as you navigate your way through these confusing stats, outcomes and recommendations.
Best
Phil

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@heavyphil
Thank you for your thoughts. I was indeed born in 1956. I will be 70 in 3 weeks.
I was diagnosed with Stage 1a lung cancer early this year. After a surgery to remove one lobe, I am now in remission. I have to do a chest CT every 6 months and no other treatment. The one right before my prostate diagnosis was all clear but lung cancer has a lot higher recurrence rate than prostate cancer.
Going thru another surgery is not something I would want to do. I just want to tame my prostate cancer before I had to deal with lung cancer in 2-5 years. I may indeed die from something else than prostate cancer, as they say.

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@heavyphil
Thank you for your thoughts. I was indeed born in 1956. I will be 70 in 3 weeks.
I was diagnosed with Stage 1a lung cancer early this year. After a surgery to remove one lobe, I am now in remission. I have to do a chest CT every 6 months and no other treatment. The one right before my prostate diagnosis was all clear but lung cancer has a lot higher recurrence rate than prostate cancer.
Going thru another surgery is not something I would want to do. I just want to tame my prostate cancer before I had to deal with lung cancer in 2-5 years. I may indeed die from something else than prostate cancer, as they say.

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@frank1956 Well Frank, we always talk about co-morbidities on the forum and I think lung cancer is all that - in spades.
Don’t blame you one bit and having had surgery myself for PCa, radiation (especially Cyberknife) is much, MUCH easier and just as effective. Best,
Phil

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It’s good that you’re in information-collecting mode. That will guide you towards an appropriate decision.

> It’s always a good idea to get 2nd opinions on biopsies — not necessarily because you don’t trust the 1st one or don’t like that opinion. But, because much of the interpretation of images and scans is often as much an art as it is a science, and it’s dependent on the skill and experience of the person reading the slides. It’s good to have an independent set of eyes reviewing the biopsy.

> Since you have a “4” cell type in the Gleason score—> In the MRI or biopsy reports, were the words cribriform pattern, extracapsular extension, seminal vesicle invasion, perineural invasion or intraductal carcinoma mentioned? (If not, that’s good.)

> also, ask them to calculate your: % Free PSA, PSA Doubling Time, and PSA Density to see if those are ok or if they indicate any concern.

> the genetic (germline) test will check a few dozen markers that may be related to prostate cancer in addition to BRCA1/BRCA2. (See attached chart for the key markers.)

> I would also ask to bump-up PSA testing to every 4-6 months rather than annually (and calculate those three - % Free PSA, PSA Doubling Time, and PSA Density - at every PSA test). Tracking PSA more actively going forward is important.

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@brianjarvis I agree

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I am the OP.

It took a while to get the other test results in. My Decipher score is 0.57. Intermediate risk, very close to the high risk area of 0.60. PSMA shows the same 2 legions inside prostate, but no where else. I also did a Color Health saliva test that shows negative of all 29 cancer genes they tested.

I met with my UCLA Urologic Oncologist. He said due to my high Decipher score, he does not recommend Active Surveillance. I asked for referrals. His office set up appointments for me with Dr Kishan on Jan, 9th, 2026 for Radiation consultation, and Dr Reiter on Jan 21, 2026 for surgery.

My Oncologist said wait for another 3-4 months is probably OK since the actual treatment may be months away. Meanwhile, I am doing a lot of research on SBRT and Brachytherapy, but I need to talk to Dr Kishan first so he can evaluate me for best modality. Though I have an appointment with the surgeon, I am really not sure about surgery. If Dr Kishan's consultation can give me confidence, I might cancel the appointment with Dr Reiter later.

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@frank1956
Seems to me Frank you are doing everything you can to help you make decisions on what is best for you. Getting opinions and second opinions is something many of us do to help make decisions on what treatment you decide.

I did not have RP so can only mentioned what others have posted and will leave comments on RP to others that have had it as cannot add any personal experience to you.

You had the Decipher which I would have recommended as was really a deciding factor in what I chose and my doctors chose for my treatments.

You are doing a lot of research on your own and reading directly that research so in my opinion you are right on tract on what to do to help with decisions.
Good luck!!

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I had similar findings this August but slightly worse. I got a 2nd opinion at Mayo Rochester and they downgraded it and downgraded again after my biopsy. I had my prostatectomy on Halloween (they didn't wear costumes) and both it and the biopsy were virtually pain free. A benefit of surgery is that the can do a pathology report. In mine it showed everything to be clean with clear margins-and they downgraded again. There are a couple of side effects that everyone is concerned about but the vast majority of men recover from them. But, there are similar and sometimes worse side effects with radiation that show up much later. You might want to look them up. I'm 75, in otherwise good shape and am confident something else will get me, even if it returns in 10-15 years when new treatments can be applied. Best of luck. Remember that each specialist will recommend their treatment.

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I had similar findings this August but slightly worse. I got a 2nd opinion at Mayo Rochester and they downgraded it and downgraded again after my biopsy. I had my prostatectomy on Halloween (they didn't wear costumes) and both it and the biopsy were virtually pain free. A benefit of surgery is that the can do a pathology report. In mine it showed everything to be clean with clear margins-and they downgraded again. There are a couple of side effects that everyone is concerned about but the vast majority of men recover from them. But, there are similar and sometimes worse side effects with radiation that show up much later. You might want to look them up. I'm 75, in otherwise good shape and am confident something else will get me, even if it returns in 10-15 years when new treatments can be applied. Best of luck. Remember that each specialist will recommend their treatment.

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@chuckb
What was your final Gleason score?

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Anyone seen this: carrying cellphone in front pocket linked to prostate cancer?
https://www.ehn.org/prostate-cancer-cell-phone-use

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Hello Frank. It looks like you’re covering all bases. I’m 77 and been on AS for over twenty years at Hopkins. Until 2025 about 15 biopsies came back negative or 3+3. (Most were 3+3). In June 2025 a biopsy came back 3+4 with 5% or less 4 and no large cribriform in one of the cores. Hopkins recommended radiation. I went to another center of excellence for a second opinion on continuing AS and that center obtained and read the slides from the Hopkins biopsy as 3+3!! My Decipher was .50. So things are murky. Although my PSA is around 20 I’m sticking with AS for now.

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@chuckb
What was your final Gleason score?

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@jeffmarc Gleason 7 (
4+3 75%).
On my MRI they said two tumors PiRADS 5. Mayo reviewed it and said PiRADS 3. Originally on the biopsy it was a proposed Gleason 8 (one core was 4+4 with intraductal. ) Post surgery no intraductal found. Cribriform pattern was in the final pathology report but no immediate concern since pathology and PSMA/CT were clean. Gleason set at 7.
I did have a minor ECE (Extracapsular Extension) so we will monitor appropriately. Do I have a higher chance of recurrence? Possibly. But the treatment options keep growing. At my age 10 years is a lifetime.

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