Why are cancer markers 15-3 and 19-9 rising while CA-125 isn’t?
Hi there, was wondering why ca 19-9 and ca 15-3 are elevated and/or rising, despite ca 125 "normal" . I have stage 3C2 serous endometrial cancer. CT scan shows tumors shrinking on ENHERTU. So am confused why these markers are still elevated.
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@cookercooker it is appalling that your questions were not answered. In a clinical trial these markers may be used in the data analysis to see if they are useful for monitoring cases like yours. In real clinical use, these markers *may* indicate other cancers in different organ systems, but they would only be raising a flag that would require follow-up, they are not diagnostic in and of themselves. For example, people with high ca 19-9 sometimes have pancreatic cancer or bile duct cancer, but they can also have an inflammation of the pancreas or even gall bladder issues. Do you have a new oncologist besides the clinical trial team, or do they have an oncologist who will answer your questions about the possible need for follow-up?
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1 Reaction@koche005 No, I don't have another oncologist.I requested that I see the gynecological oncologist who assisted the surgeon who performed my hysterectomy, but she turned the request down. I haven't received a reason for this.
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I am 74 and was diagnosed with serous 4B endometrial and had surgery with no evidence of diease on CT-scan afterwards (january). but apparently these suckers are AGGRESSIVE. I went through the 6 carbo/platin/herceptin infusions and lost hair 3 weeks after first infusion and have had rather messed up gastric/intestinal stuff but no pain or nausea and (using foot coolers), VERY little neuropathy. but if you are active, neuropathy is NOT something you want to have. Am i glad i did it (considering that if you google stage 4b serous endometrial cancer with omentum involment you get 4-7 months!)? - yes. would i do it again if things recur? - probably not. I am very active, never really had any fatigue and have continued to travel extensively internationally (I flew to japan the day after my 3rd infusion (wearing diapers for temporary urinary incontinence primarily due to all the stuff that gets dripped in)). currently am on Herceptin every 3 weeks (only 1 hour infusion) and my hair is back and finally i am getting my gastric/intestinal stuff under control (5 months after end of the BAD chemo).
everyone DOES respond differently to chemo and i think i was lucky. quality of life is important. I never thought that i would do chemo - i mean how stupid is it to try to kill all your actively dividing cells in order to slow the growth of some demon? good luck with whatever your decision - and remember it IS YOUR decision.
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4 ReactionsWhat are these markers my scan are good no metastases 125 2.8. I don't recall seeing anything about these for me. Is there a tests I am missing? Thank you for anyone who can answer this for me.
@greatgrandma2025 These are all "liquid biopsies" which refers in this case to blood draws where the blood is then tested for specific
Some physicians order these tests for their patients and some do not. It depends on the type of cancer, and how aggressive the cancer is. The oncologist may order these tests to gauge the effectiveness of the treatment such as chemotherapy.
I was diagnosed with endometrial cancer - endometrioid adenocarcinoma, FIGO Grade 1 Stage 1a. My oncologist told me that this cancer was not aggressive and so this is why these blood tests were not indicated.
As you read through these websites please notice that each of these tests are for cancers in other parts of the body.
Mayo Clinic: CA-125 Test
-- https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/ca-125-test/about/pac-20393295
Canadian Cancer Society: Cancer antigen 15-3 (CA 15-3)
-- https://cancer.ca/en/treatments/tests-and-procedures/cancer-antigen-15-3-ca-15-3
Stanford Medicine: CA 19-9 Tumor Marker
-- https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-tests/t/tumor-markers/types/ca-19-9.html
Have you asked your oncologist about whether any of these tests are indicated for you? If your oncologist says "no" you can then ask what is proposed in your case to scan for the potential of cancer in other places in your body. From what you shared it sounds like imaging scans such as CT is what your oncologist orders for you. Is that correct?
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2 Reactions@birdergirl
Good on you for flying to Japan after your third infusion.
I went to NYC before my third and London yesterday after my third. I have to say I didn't anticipate the nausea being so much worse the third time. I know it's cumulative and just stick I had brought the bottle of ondansetron with me instead of two pills per day.
On day 2 and have plans every evening with friends. Wishing I had planned lunches instead. But hoping the nausea dissipates.
Are you wearing a wig or scarf/hat traveling and inside restaurants. I feel awkward wearing a hat in a restaurant.
I guess I should get over what I look like with a buzz cut, soon to be bald.
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Are you saying your CA 125 test result was 2.8?
Kudos to the post infusion travelers! I cannot imagine that I could have ever have done that. You rock!
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2 Reactions@naturegirl5 Yes he orders CT scans and blood tests. Thank you so much for this information,.
It is very confusing sometimes so I want to have as much information as I can get. Hope you are doing fine.
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1 Reaction@mtstack Yes CA125 2.8 with no Metastases.
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