@jeffmarc Kathryn Schmitz would say great. I have a transcript excerpt of the section I was quoting from memory:

"Audience member: I am currently on androgen deprivation therapy for prostate cancer. Yes. And also on Monaro for type two diabetes. Yes. Both therapies have side effects. I'm losing muscle tissue. And in order to compensate, I'm doing resistance training four times a week, right? Intensive. My question is um how can I build muscle tissue in a complete absence of testosterone?

Schmitz: Actually there is more recent data since I was last asked this question that shows that you actually can build muscle in the setting of androgen deprivation. The data comes out of Australia from Rob Newton's lab. I would also state that if you are going to be trying to build muscle, you need to make sure that you're taking in plenty of protein as well. It can't be just that you're doing the exercise, but you have to be taking in the protein as well. But we do have evidence now out of Rob's lab, He is showing that doing intensive weight training in ADT patients can result in building muscle. So we do we do see some evidence that that's possible."

The context for this Q&A: Schmitz is leading an effort in the US to get a recommendation for prescribed supervised exercise to become the accepted standard of care in cancer therapy, When she uses a word like "evidence", she's talking about something more than a report from one patient. Evidence to convince medical oncologists, in her mind, is a randomized clinical trial preferably many of them. Previously in this discussion, she had pointed to what she called the first trial of this kind, the CHALLENGE trial done with colon cancer patients, that was prominently unveiled at the last ASCO convention. She names Rob here because he's doing what may be the second one, specifically focused on prostate cancer and exercise.

The context I was using her words in this forum could easily be misleading.

I'm hoping to do as well as you - I just received my first Orgovyx pills by Fedex today.