@lindabees Yes, and that was my case. At one point after that surgery I had 5 abdominal drains going and 5 transfusion pumps. I thought I knew what pain was, but I had a leak and bile poured over the outside of my bowels, only then did I really know. :). That surgical team, radiology, and nursing staff pulled me out of a fire and saved me. I will forever be grateful. Dr Rose had a hand in it and guided me to those guys.