Cyclists and prostate cancer
is it my imagination or do a disproportionate number of cyclists comment on prostate cancer message boards?
Not a joke. I have been involved in a variety of sports from sailing to rugby and have indeed met a few cyclists over time but it just seems to me that on a % basis, there is more than the average here on this message board.
Has anyone else had similar thoughts? I am thinking their PSA levels may be naturally elevated over time. Probably mistaken but doesn't hurt to ask.
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@xahnegrey40
Exactly what was being told to us men.
And you know the same comments remain like, "you will die from something else." How does any doctor know when you are going to die or the risk and aggressive level of PC without biopsies AND the follow up test that give a better risk level to patient and doctor (Decipher, PSMA, etc.)
You ride 2-3 times a day and 2-3 miles. So you are getting some good miles there. I find bike riding just makes me smile like I was a young boy again.
Hay as I get older getting hard to train for those Sprint Triathlons. The are usually only 12-15 miles but I try to train for them doing 20 miles with added weights on my bike. After my PC I find myself just wanting to take my hybrid bike out and do a liesure and comfortable ride.
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1 Reaction@jc76 My PCP didn't like my 1 point rise to 3 and gave me cipro thinking I might have an inflamed prostate. Committed to taking it and after a couple of weeks decided to go to a urologist. He found my tumor during the DRE. Great hearing these younger guys are rethinking the no PSA stand. A friend of mine with BPH had to demand his PCP give him a PSA test so those guys are still out there. Sadly so.
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1 Reaction@jc76 Yes, the Gleason score from the biospy determine at the best level of evidence, the future course of treatment. The PSA is like a check engine light, but #3 in it effectiveness in what's going on or not going on with the gland.
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2 Reactions@jc76 I was 70 with a PSA of 3.7 stage 4 PC. It went up from a 1.75 the year before. That was a surprise.
With that being said, I hope we're all discussing this in five years as it means that the stuff they're doing for us has been successful!
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Dave
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2 ReactionsKind of happy that the discussion has been revived. Still think that bike riding for long periods may have some correlation with elevated PSA and possible over reactions in terms of treatment for some people. The research however indicates that I am wrong……
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1 Reaction@ozelli
I don' think you are wrong in your opinion.
What my R/O at UFHPTI said to me (he has been doing proton radiation treatments for 20 years) is that everyone bodies are different. Bike riding might not affect the prostate on one person but may on another.
No one's body is exactly like another. How big the prostate is, it's location, fat, muscle, buttocks, bones, they are all different. I was told my prostate would move around if I moved during treatments and they make a specific bed for you to lay in to keep you from moving.
I had gas one day and had to go through a lot more xray and moving me around as gas in my colon was moving prostate. So to think a bike seat digging into your bottom for long times and motion back and forth would not affect prostate in some.
UFHPTI was huge on research. They just got another 25 million dollar federal grant to do long term study of radiation treatments for prostate cancer.
One of the research UFHPTI showed was taking cell protection supplements prior, during and after treatments. It was supplements that are considered oxidation protection, protection of cells, etc. My R/O said one study showed no correlation to protecting cancer cells the other study showed a correlation as would protect cancer cells as well.
UHFPTI aired on the side of saying if it was possible taking supplements could affect radiation treatments success. I am a supplement freak. I had about 6 different supplements I was told not to take. Most radiation treatments are to damage the cells of the PC. Normal cells of the prostate can repair themselves. The PC cancer cannot after damaged and eventually die.
I think the bike riding is a personal thing and personal decision as you know your own personal body make up and how bike riding makes you feel. I know many bike riders who have no issues with pain, discomfort, from race bike seats and others (like me) drives my bottom crazy with a lot of pain.
My PCP a long time ago asked me to refrain from bike riding prior to my PSA tests. As I mentioned I usually ride 20 miles and if I can do something to get a more accurate PSA test for me I chose to follow the advice.
@drcopp
Exactly it is a warning sign. The warning signs says need to check why. Then you have the tests to determine what is causing it.
Bottom line don't ignore the engine light have it checked why it is on or for prostate why is rising or getting high. The light does not tell you what the problem is only tests do that it is merely a warning something is causing a rise in PSA. That something wrong warning moves to uroligist exams, MRIs, biopsies, etc. diagnoses. The engine light is not a diagnosis it is a warning have it checked.
@jc76 Alpha Lipoic Acid has been shown to actually help protect prostate from PC in some studies..Google it...
It is apparent to me that even today, the prostate is a bit of a mystery..my theory is as we age, our skin/tissue becomes thinner and more prone to tears and -in some guys- the prostate sack can tear open from cycling or other activities...and since it is also known that 80% of all men will develop malignant cells in their prostate, its no wonder that in some cases, the cells are more virulent and a higher grade of cancer...
so it seems rather foolish-in retrospect- that someone decided it was better to just ignore PSA and prostate health in older men. And just when we need more scrutiny instead of ignoring this little gland...it seems to me quite an epidemic of PC nowdays in guys over 65...Stage IV PC at that.
And the remedy for this neglect is pretty horrendous...ADT radiation and radical prosectomy...
@scottbeammeup I don’t believe there is any evidence that cycling increases cancer risks. It does cause a transient elevation of PSA confusing the interpretation of an elevated result. For that matter, recent sexual activity with ejaculation also can elevate the PSA, but unrelated to cancer risks
My RO said I could resume cycling a month after completing SBRT as long as it was not causing me discomfort. I have a gel cushion seat and wear a cushioned cycling bib when I ride.
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3 ReactionsRight, Scott, any moderately vigorous exercise will temporarily elevate our PSA.