@beachesanddreams so glad to meet you and learn from your posts, which fortify my own thinking.thanks so much ! I will be interested to see what you come up with-as we are on the same page about docs listening, being real partners in healing, where we work together—also, quality of the life I gave left really matters to me…i respect the fact meds can help, but with OP the choices are not easy… the community posting here can be very helpful and heartening.