Medical cannabis vs Ambien?

Posted by patriciaschulz1950 @patriciaschulz1950, Oct 11 8:39pm

I am 75 years old - using 5 mg of Ambien (successfully) at night to help me sleep for six hours. I have chronic neuropathy pain in my feet , ankles and calves. I have been using for about 12 years and it lets me sleep through pain for 5-6 hours. I am tired all the next day. Cramping pain in my legs and feet usually wake me up or assuming the 5 mg of Ambien are leaving my system. I used to wake up refreshed and able to take on chronic pain for the day, however now I am so tired the next day. I would like to wean off Ambien and try pill or edible cannabis hoping this would work equally or better and give me more energy next morning. Thoughts? Any insights? Thanks!

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Profile picture for maricopajoe2 @maricopajoe2

I've tried everything under the sun for sleep. Ambien is the only thing that works. I've been using it for 15 years. Sadly tge drug is restricted. The medical community (including mayo pain clinic) think it's evil and want to take you off it. Like Kratom for pain, the medical community doesn't want you to have something that works. I even walked out of a clinic because they took me off ambien suddenly and threw me into rebound insomnia!

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@maricopajoe2
I am 72 years old. And throughout my life every time there is a substance that helps with pain that is not pharmaceutical or taken over by the government they make it illegal. I also do not believe regulators of pain medicine should be left up to people that have experienced nothing more than a stubbed toe or a scraped knee. Shatter their leg or break their back then they can talk.

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Amen to that last statement. I would like to have a doctor who actually has neuropathy. Pain is subjective and unique to all of us so I don’t think 99% of them understand.

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Profile picture for vstevens250 @vstevens250

Its just horrible not being able to sleep. I can normally fall asleep but wake up an hour or two later and cant go back to sleep. Part of my problem is TKR surgery and being older and just pain in my body :-). I have steered away from prescription drugs until now when I tried Ambien. 5 Mg did knock me out pretty well but I still woke up a few hours later. My doctor recently prescribed Doxepin but I took for just one night because I felt horrible the next day. My body usually does the opposite of what it is suppose to. I have taken different gummies normally CBD/CBN/THC. I have learned recently that you have to be careful of the strain of THC they use in the gummies. Stavia strain keeps you awake and indica is more for sleeping. It worked amazing for a couple years and now it seems to not be working as well. When I had my TKR and was also on pain meds for a couple months it seems I slept a bit better but even pain medication would keep me awake.
Oh my goodness. I asked my doctor recently about Trazadone and he said Ambien or Doxepin has far less side effects. So tonight it will be a gummy. I purchase them on line from highly ranked sites since I dont have a medical card.

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@vstevens250 even if you are buying online you should be able to consult with employee who can best determine the ideal strain for you. There is much more variation than just indica and sativa. If the online store you are using doesn’t offer consultations, message me and I will give you one that does. Although I recently moved to a state where dispensaries don’t require a card or prescription so it’s possible the site has changed. Worth a shot tho

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Hi all--After nearly 20 years of getting an Ambien 10mg scrip from my family doc, I've been cut off by the insurance company. I'm trying to figure out what to do next. Doc will be giving me Doxepin but he says it's better for staying asleep than getting to sleep. I need to get to sleep! Any promising treatments and/or practices for you all? By the way, I'm a 77-year-old man in decent shape. I walk three miles most days, often with an AFO (ankle-foot orthosis) brace that was prescribed for my neuropathy. But right now, I'm more concerned with getting to sleep than I am with getting around!

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Profile picture for chawk @chawk

Hi all--After nearly 20 years of getting an Ambien 10mg scrip from my family doc, I've been cut off by the insurance company. I'm trying to figure out what to do next. Doc will be giving me Doxepin but he says it's better for staying asleep than getting to sleep. I need to get to sleep! Any promising treatments and/or practices for you all? By the way, I'm a 77-year-old man in decent shape. I walk three miles most days, often with an AFO (ankle-foot orthosis) brace that was prescribed for my neuropathy. But right now, I'm more concerned with getting to sleep than I am with getting around!

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@chawk

How much does Ambien cost without insurance?

""Without insurance, brand-name Ambien is very expensive (around $700-$800 for 30 pills), but the generic version, zolpidem, costs significantly less, typically around $20 to $90 for a month's supply (30 pills), and even lower with discount coupons. You can find prices as low as $9-$15 for generic zolpidem using prescription savings cards from sites like GoodRx or BuzzRx. ""

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Profile picture for chawk @chawk

Hi all--After nearly 20 years of getting an Ambien 10mg scrip from my family doc, I've been cut off by the insurance company. I'm trying to figure out what to do next. Doc will be giving me Doxepin but he says it's better for staying asleep than getting to sleep. I need to get to sleep! Any promising treatments and/or practices for you all? By the way, I'm a 77-year-old man in decent shape. I walk three miles most days, often with an AFO (ankle-foot orthosis) brace that was prescribed for my neuropathy. But right now, I'm more concerned with getting to sleep than I am with getting around!

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@chawk Understand…I am 75 and have been on the generic zolpidem for over 15 years - maybe more. I was prescribed by PC many years ago to help me go to sleep through neuropathy pain. I was still working full time, and could not function at work due to lack of sleep- my body requires at least 6 hours to function and be coherent…and that’s what zolpidem does for me. I have a bedtime ritual, no computer, lights done, soothing music and Vicks on my feet. I am usually asleep in 15 minutes. Heaven forbid if my insurance company refused to fill it for me.. I would recommend this generic, or at least GoodRX as someone mentioned. Keep us posted..

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Profile picture for patriciaschulz1950 @patriciaschulz1950

@chawk Understand…I am 75 and have been on the generic zolpidem for over 15 years - maybe more. I was prescribed by PC many years ago to help me go to sleep through neuropathy pain. I was still working full time, and could not function at work due to lack of sleep- my body requires at least 6 hours to function and be coherent…and that’s what zolpidem does for me. I have a bedtime ritual, no computer, lights done, soothing music and Vicks on my feet. I am usually asleep in 15 minutes. Heaven forbid if my insurance company refused to fill it for me.. I would recommend this generic, or at least GoodRX as someone mentioned. Keep us posted..

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@patriciaschulz1950 Hi Patricia--It's actually Zolpidem that I've been taking for the last umpteen years--and it's Zolpidem that my insurance company is stopping. I've gotten it from CVS without any problem. As for GoodRX, I'm not certain they would start a prescription for a controlled substance. It seems like such overkill: All we want is a good night's sleep, right?

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@chawk

How much does Ambien cost without insurance?

""Without insurance, brand-name Ambien is very expensive (around $700-$800 for 30 pills), but the generic version, zolpidem, costs significantly less, typically around $20 to $90 for a month's supply (30 pills), and even lower with discount coupons. You can find prices as low as $9-$15 for generic zolpidem using prescription savings cards from sites like GoodRx or BuzzRx. ""

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@bajjerfan Thanks for responding, It's actually Zolpidem I've been taking all these years, and that's what my insurer has decided not to continue for me. I'd go the GoodRX route in a heartbeat but my understanding is they don't do prescriptions for medicines classified as controlled substances...

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Profile picture for chawk @chawk

@patriciaschulz1950 Hi Patricia--It's actually Zolpidem that I've been taking for the last umpteen years--and it's Zolpidem that my insurance company is stopping. I've gotten it from CVS without any problem. As for GoodRX, I'm not certain they would start a prescription for a controlled substance. It seems like such overkill: All we want is a good night's sleep, right?

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@chawk

CVS applies their own discount which is on par with GoodRx.

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Profile picture for chawk @chawk

Hi all--After nearly 20 years of getting an Ambien 10mg scrip from my family doc, I've been cut off by the insurance company. I'm trying to figure out what to do next. Doc will be giving me Doxepin but he says it's better for staying asleep than getting to sleep. I need to get to sleep! Any promising treatments and/or practices for you all? By the way, I'm a 77-year-old man in decent shape. I walk three miles most days, often with an AFO (ankle-foot orthosis) brace that was prescribed for my neuropathy. But right now, I'm more concerned with getting to sleep than I am with getting around!

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@chawk hello, ambian was a miracle drug for me for my insomnia. I took 10mg every night for 30 days but it stopped working after that I have taken gabapentin for sleep which works great but i needed 900 mg to work. Your doctor may not want to give you that much. When I first took it it made me feel tipsy at first but got better after repeatedly taking it.

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