@bushelbasket I have read it takes anywhere from 45 minutes to 2 hours for lower extremities. I don't call that quick. Plus, from what I can gather they leave the needles in for about 1 to 2 minutes and move them around the entire time which seems would feel more like hours instead of minutes. Again, not my idea of quick. Quick would be in and out in under 30 minutes and maybe 5 to 10 minutes total with the needle crap. That would be quick.