@mrmacabre thank you so much, I really appreciate it! I'm so sorry for you or anyone who has to deal with this horrible monster or any debilitating pain!! I recently retired, I thought less commuting/moving around/being stressed might help. It has helped in a lot of ways, but not with the pain. I went whole food plant based about 13 weeks ago, which I love! When I can, I cook new recipes, which I really enjoy. I had hoped eating this way might help. While it has helped in many ways, lessening the pain isn't one of them. 😭 I'm learning Italian for fun. I do chair workouts 4 days a week, more when I'm able. I meditate, listen to paralimenals and spend time daily with my Lord and Savior. I have 8 cats who are very excited I am home more often ( I think! Lol!) I have a good life and I'm very grateful and blessed for it. But NOTHING gets rid of this pain, not even the 1800 mg daily (sometimes more) of gabapentin. I've not heard of alpha lipoic acid, I'll look into that. I have an FNP who doesn't take me seriously, he gave me gabapentin and tried to put me on a weight loss drug. He thinks losing weight is some kind of magic for anything I've got wrong. Well I've lost 36 pounds since eating whole food plant based and nothing has changed pain wise. Thank you again for your response!! And thank you for listening! Sorry this is so long! It's nice to talk to people who understand, I'm just sorry we all have to go through any of it. ❤️ P.S. I don't know if I'll be allowed to attach all these pics, but these are 6 plus the 2 on my avatar. 😻