Lymphedema in legs

Posted by mariwy59 @mariwy59, Aug 2, 2017

I was diagnosed with lympedema in 2007. Due to unforseen circumstances I am now on disability so i cant stand for long periods of time without excruciating pain. I have to change so many things in my daily life but one thing that is bothering me is the pain I feel all the time .Try to do things to put in the back of my mind. My condition seems to be getting worse with the stiffness . I watch sit and fit on TV when can which helps some but the thought of not being able to walk at all has me terrified.

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I'm new to this discussion. I was just diagnosed with lymphedema (both legs, the left worse than the right) and venous insufficiency in both legs too. I learned about this after I changed cardiologists and explained my frustration about having previous cardiologists accuse me of not taking Lasix as prescribed because of the swelling. My new cardiologist immediately ordered a vein mapping, which is where my lymphedema and venous insufficiency were discovered. When I found out that lymphedema swelling does not respond to Lasix, I felt vindicated (smile).

There were problems, however. The diagnosing NP explained everything well and told me what to expect when I went to a physical therapist at the clinic she was referring me to. She told me about the massaging and bandaging and said I may not be able to drive during those 2-3 weeks of reducing the swelling. So I spent several days finding ride services I could afford and would pick my up at my home and take me to the clinic at the appointed time. She told me that after that phase was finished and my legs were reduced in size, I would be measured for custom garments that would help maintain the size without the swelling.

My first appointment with the physical therapist was totally different than what I had been told to expect. When she took measurements of my most swollen leg, I thought it was for a baseline to measure my progress with the manual therapy. I was confused when she told me after she finished taking those measurements, she was going to send them to a company of her choice to get a quote for having garments made and then when she got that quote, she would submit it to my insurance company for payment. It was not a good appointment for this and other reasons related to our lack of communication with each other and my resulting frustration.

As a result of what seemed to be the need for some oversight of my therapy by one person, I chose to transfer my care for both lymphedema and venous insufficiency to one person and that person is a medical doctor/surgeon who not only can oversee my physical therapy needs that he thinks are appropriate, taking the pressure off me to try to make sure a therapist implements therapy as directed, and also enables me to explore other options that would not be possible for NPs or PTs to perform, such as some of the new medical procedures for certain stages of lymphedema (done at Mayo clinic and a few other hospitals). And since the doctor I'm now going to see is a vascular surgeon, he also can address my venous insufficiency concurrently with treatment of my lymphedema. My cardiologist (who had ordered the vein mapping) agreed with my plan. And so, I have been able to start a fresh treatment with a new doctor (an independent who is well known in my city) and stop seeing the PT who seemed to be a poor fit for me.

I'm sharing this because I have read several stories about people having trouble finding adequate treatment for their lymphedema. My short experience seems to be reflect that as a problem. I chose quick action to move away from the PT who made me feel uncomfortable. I hope my decision to engage a doctor instead turns out to be the right choice. I will keep you posted.

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@janchan I should have mentioned that one of the reasons for my quick action was this: My state allows direct access to physical therapists, meaning that a patient can go to a physical therapist without a referral. This also means that if you acquire a physical therapist in this manner, that person will be working with you without medical oversight. In the summer of 2023, I had 5 different PTs, all from self referrals. With each, the results were the same: The therapy would get to a certain point where the TFL and I-band would become problematic. I would not be able to even lift my leg from a prone position, therapist would accuse me of not doing my exercizes at home, and eventually would drop me. One of them even started working on my other leg (my "good" one) and when I developed posterier tibial tendinitis in that leg due to the work she was doing (that was not needed), she told me that the reason I had the PTT problem was because I have a heart condition. When I subsequently went to a doctor, the true cause for my problems was found to be my knee joint which badly needed to be replaced.

To be clear, I think PT can be great. I've had Physical Therapists help me a lot in short time. But in my experience, if there is no oversight, Physical Therapists start making medical decisions for which they are not qualified to do. And that's a reason why I will never again go to a physical therapist unless I have a doctor who refers me to them and can oversee my progress. I understand that others may disagree with me and that is everyone's right. We all have to do what works for us.

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I recently saw a lymphedema therapist for one swollen leg as a result of pelvic lymph node removal due to recurrence of endometrial cancer. At every session I learned something new about this lifelong complication and wanted to cry. The therapist was kind, explaining that there’s a lot involved & to get used to with this lifelong issue. I am settling into my daily & nightly compression stocking routines, but I admit that I still curse about it most days. Still, it’s not cancer.

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My doctor put me on a heavy dose of water tablets and to my relief my legs are back to normal.

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I’m very new with dealing with Lymphedema: I was diagnosed with Prostate cancer in 2024, grade 4 with a gleason score of 8: I had surgery to remove the prostate and 25 lymph nodes. In that time I have had three edema swelling, I talked to my physician, all he offers is compression sock, elevate and water pills ( one of the things I have read is water pills can make it worse ). The problem is I am very active. Sitting with my leg elevated for hours just doesn't work. I have read a lot and found new exercises and better ways of eating. Are their resources I can contact on my own to have someone show me self care? Two thing to know: 1: I don’t have a bad case of lymphedema and I’m very proactive, I don’t want this getting worse. 2: I had a torn meniscus in my knee repaired and the swelling is not help the healing. Can anyone help out?

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I developed lymphedema after gyn cancer surgeries. Oncologist gave me a referral for OT. You need that referral to get the care. I was classified as Late Stage 1. Massage therapy was part of the treatment, which I’m supposed to do at home but….
I wear a full leg (foot to thigh) compression stocking which does help to keep the lymphedema in check. I do not sit with my leg elevated.

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I’m very new with dealing with Lymphedema: I was diagnosed with Prostate cancer in 2024, grade 4 with a gleason score of 8: I had surgery to remove the prostate and 25 lymph nodes. In that time I have had three edema swelling, I talked to my physician, all he offers is compression sock, elevate and water pills ( one of the things I have read is water pills can make it worse ). The problem is I am very active. Sitting with my leg elevated for hours just doesn't work. I have read a lot and found new exercises and better ways of eating. Are their resources I can contact on my own to have someone show me self care? Two thing to know: 1: I don’t have a bad case of lymphedema and I’m very proactive, I don’t want this getting worse. 2: I had a torn meniscus in my knee repaired and the swelling is not help the healing. Can anyone help out?

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@peterbose, I hope you saw the helpful reply from @ffr.

Peter, you might ask at your cancer center for a referral to a lymphedema therapist or OT. Therapists trained in manual lymph drainage use a massage technique with very light pressure to move the trapped fluid in the swollen limb toward an area with working lymph vessels.

Keep the swollen limb elevated as much as possible and protect your skin from injury. The swelling from lymphedema might dull pain from an injury or burn, so don't use heating pads on the affected limb. Moisturize your skin daily.

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@peterbose, I hope you saw the helpful reply from @ffr.

Peter, you might ask at your cancer center for a referral to a lymphedema therapist or OT. Therapists trained in manual lymph drainage use a massage technique with very light pressure to move the trapped fluid in the swollen limb toward an area with working lymph vessels.

Keep the swollen limb elevated as much as possible and protect your skin from injury. The swelling from lymphedema might dull pain from an injury or burn, so don't use heating pads on the affected limb. Moisturize your skin daily.

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@colleenyoung I talked to my physician and he referred me to a lymphedema physical therapist and I will follow up and get my appointment scheduled. Since I stated this in 2024, its the most help. All I have been told is to elevate, compression socks. I’m very active and I don’t think the physician understand motion is medicine. Thank you

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