Just curious: What do these PSA readings mean?
On my lab work it showed 1. Psa 2. Psa free and 3. Psa free
1 was .006 2. Was .010 3. Said not calculatable. Any know what all this means.
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Your important number is .006. That is the lowest number that some of the machines can give you.
As far as the medical community is concerned, you are undetectable.
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2 ReactionsI'm sorry my wife told me that the oncologist said it was undetectable; my bad
“PSA” and “PSA Free” are two different markers. (“PSA” is sometimes called “Total PSA”.)
PSA circulates in the blood in two forms – either attached to certain blood proteins or unattached (“free”). The ratio of Free PSA to PSA is called the “% Free PSA.”
If the PSA is between 4.0-10.0, but the % Free PSA is low (< 25%), it may indicate a higher risk of disease. (% Free PSA doesn’t mean much when PSA is far outside of the 4.0-10.0 range. That may be why it mentioned “not calculable.”)
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As for your PSA of 0.006 (which us very good, by the way) —> For it to be considered undetectable, it must be preceded by a “< “ (mathematical “less than”) symbol. A PSA of 0.00x isn’t undetectable (because there is no “< “ symbol).
To explain —> the term “undetectable” refers to the lower limitations of the laboratory test equipment being used.
For instance, “undetectable”
can be < 0.2, or < 0.02, or < 0.002, depending on the sensitivity of the test equipment being used. (In my case at two different test centers, CompuNet and the Cancer Center that I go to, undetectable is < 0.02 and < 0.008, respectively. Both were considered undetectable because both were preceded by the “< “ symbol.
If your PSA is below the detectable limit of the lab equipment that your doctor has chosen to use (i.e., PSA result has a “< “), that’s considered undetectable.
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3 ReactionsThank you so much for explaining that to me. I've learned so much from everyone here on this support group as everyone has been extremely helpful. I pray for everyone on this site to get the help they need as we all go through this together.
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You are absolutely correct on all points. It is important to make the distinction between laboratory capabilities and clinical outcomes, as you did, but it deserves emphasis: anything less than .1 was historically "undetectable after prostatectomy. A number like .05 would be an excellent clinical outcome; .0006 is phenomenal - with or without a "< " sign.
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2 ReactionsThe number you want to watch , among others, is your "PSA velocity" or how quick your PSA rises and falls . Keep a log book of every year you are tested . Are you seeing a Urologist (URO) ? Any other issues with prostate ? At PSA of 0.006 , thats usually the lowest reading possible or "undetectable " . Keep us informed , and get regular PSA checks . James
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1 ReactionMy wife says I think too deep haha.
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If someone’s PSA is .01 or less it doesn’t need a < sign. That is the exact PSA, there’s no need for them to say well It’s less than that if that is exactly what it is.
The < sign is really only significant if attached to < .1 Which the medical community considers undetectable. Anything less than that doesn’t require a less than sign To be considered undetectable, Because less than that is undetectable, according to medical literature.
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2 ReactionsNo sir im seeing an
an oncologist thanks to jeffmarc. Thanks so much for the info.
Like I said this is all new to me and you and others have been very helpful in explaining things to me.