Has anyone treated their osteoporosis without drugs?

Posted by hemigal04 @hemigal04, Sep 20 4:43pm

Hello all … I am a 68 y/o lady, 5’1 and 115lbs. I have always been petite and of small stature. I recently went to a new physician who ran a battery of tests on me, which all came back great, except for my Dexa scan which came back with a T score of -3.8. The physician immediately wanted to write me a script for Fosamax. After reading about it, I am freaked out. Here’s a bit of background on me. I have never smoked, don’t drink and am fairly active. I still work part-time and love being active. Have any of you tried to combat osteoporosis from a “natural” healing angle? I have NEVER taken any meds, gosh I never even have the need for aspirin, as I don’t experience headaches. Looking for some input from actual people. It’s way too easy for a physician to write a script as I truly believe they are in cahoots with the pharmaceutical industry. My apologies if I have upset anyone. Any information, experience or feedback you can offer is greatly appreciated. Thank you for reading my post.

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First let me say I am not the least bit offended by your comment about big Pharma and osteoporosis meds. I was diagnosed with it a couple months ago and right then my doc scheduled me for the first of 3 Reclast infusions: one per year for 3 years. I read up on it and have seen some disturbing posts from some women who have had horrible side affects from their first infusion and will not continue further infusions. I saw a good YouTube video with a doctor who has spent the last 20 years learning and researching osteoporosis and has strong opinions about the lack of progress in up to date studies on the causes, diagnosis and treatments for OP. I’m a retired RN and I did a lot of reading after my diagnosis. He sounded like a well educated, smart and dedicated physician with a specialty in an alternative approach to the long standing outdated medical treatment of OP. I just got his book “Fracture-Proof Your Bones” by Dr. John Neustadt, ND. Do a YouTube search on him. He was the guest on another docs video on OP and explained his research and treatments in detail. I am planning to follow his program soon after I finish the book. It’s time for the medical establishment to sit up and take notice of this debilitating condition and engage in some research instead of relying on decades-old conclusions that have not produced enough relief for us. I don’t mean to discredit or discourage people from choosing whatever treatment advised by your doctor. I’m just offering a possible alternative for anyone so inclined to choose a different path.

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@louisy
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First let me say I am not the least bit offended by your comment about big Pharma and osteoporosis meds. I was diagnosed with it a couple months ago and right then my doc scheduled me for the first of 3 Reclast infusions: one per year for 3 years. I read up on it and have seen some disturbing posts from some women who have had horrible side affects from their first infusion and will not continue further infusions. I saw a good YouTube video with a doctor who has spent the last 20 years learning and researching osteoporosis and has strong opinions about the lack of progress in up to date studies on the causes, diagnosis and treatments for OP. I’m a retired RN and I did a lot of reading after my diagnosis. He sounded like a well educated, smart and dedicated physician with a specialty in an alternative approach to the long standing outdated medical treatment of OP. I just got his book “Fracture-Proof Your Bones” by Dr. John Neustadt, ND. Do a YouTube search on him. He was the guest on another docs video on OP and explained his research and treatments in detail. I am planning to follow his program soon after I finish the book. It’s time for the medical establishment to sit up and take notice of this debilitating condition and engage in some research instead of relying on decades-old conclusions that have not produced enough relief for us. I don’t mean to discredit or discourage people from choosing whatever treatment advised by your doctor. I’m just offering a possible alternative for anyone so inclined to choose a different path.

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@louisy you are so right about reliance on old meds for OP… many older people have other health issues like cancer and these meds can be too harsh for them…your post very good. Thanks !

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@louisy
Check out the OsteoBoston group on YouTube. They have a guest speaker once a month covering a wide ranging topics regarding Osteoporosis. Excellent

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@gravity3 thank you! I will definitely check that out. The more information and viewpoints on this, the better. 😊

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@louisy you are so right about reliance on old meds for OP… many older people have other health issues like cancer and these meds can be too harsh for them…your post very good. Thanks !

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@nycmusic that’s SO true! I’m on Jardiance for heart issues. That med can cause kidney damage so my cardiologist checks bloodwork regularly. Reclast has a high risk of kidney damage too. I expressed my concern to my primary doc about the 2 meds and she simply said that her concern was my bones and I’d have to work that out with the cardiologist about the Jardiance! What?! I thought doctors consulted with each other for the benefit and safety of their shared patient! I felt she basically said I’d have to decide which was I willing to accept: kidney failure, heart failure or bone fractures! Omg. And she’s been an excellent doctor until this diagnosis. And that’s just an issue with one medication. There’s also my meds for other issues. I always think wait until they get to our age and they’re faced with competing diagnoses and meds. Ugh. I don’t know who came up with the idea of our “Golden Years”! lol.

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@nycmusic that’s SO true! I’m on Jardiance for heart issues. That med can cause kidney damage so my cardiologist checks bloodwork regularly. Reclast has a high risk of kidney damage too. I expressed my concern to my primary doc about the 2 meds and she simply said that her concern was my bones and I’d have to work that out with the cardiologist about the Jardiance! What?! I thought doctors consulted with each other for the benefit and safety of their shared patient! I felt she basically said I’d have to decide which was I willing to accept: kidney failure, heart failure or bone fractures! Omg. And she’s been an excellent doctor until this diagnosis. And that’s just an issue with one medication. There’s also my meds for other issues. I always think wait until they get to our age and they’re faced with competing diagnoses and meds. Ugh. I don’t know who came up with the idea of our “Golden Years”! lol.

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@louisy hi, first, i wish you all the best of health going forward !!…you say it so well…competing meds, actually a serious problem that demands much more care from most docs…for me, everything goes through my internist and cancer team—then I can usually come to a decision I can live with…nurse practitioners are often the really helpful ones, as to how to approach this..and I do my research so I can ask better questions, which I always write down,…and give a copy to the doc(s). They scan them for my medical records. Pray, pray !

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@louisy hi, first, i wish you all the best of health going forward !!…you say it so well…competing meds, actually a serious problem that demands much more care from most docs…for me, everything goes through my internist and cancer team—then I can usually come to a decision I can live with…nurse practitioners are often the really helpful ones, as to how to approach this..and I do my research so I can ask better questions, which I always write down,…and give a copy to the doc(s). They scan them for my medical records. Pray, pray !

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@nycmusic thank you for your kind wishes. And I pray for a continued healing for you. Doing our own research and asking logical informed questions shouldn’t ruffle any of their feathers. They should welcome us as active members of the team. Your team sounds great and your participation is fantastic. Thanks for the helpful insight!

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It’s super important to do your own research, to have a good Dr. team who is informed, call the pharmaceutical company (I did), investigate all the types of bone medicines, and get good baseline tests (a DEXA with TBS score and CTX and P1NP) and discuss with your doctor and team all your concerns. There are two bone medicines that one usually takes because they do different things and are complementary. My first infusion with RECLAST was a disaster and they should’ve infuse me slower and prepped me with taking Tylenol and drinking lots of water. However, the way I look at it is that my bones were soft beyond soft. They fell apart in surgery and my infusion experience was miserable because my body and immune system was being activated successfully. It’s kind of like having a baby-– nobody tells you how miserable childbirth is because they don’t want to dissuade you from The joy of having children. I have been on bone medicines for two years now. The side effects of the TYMLOS last two months and then they disappear. You can titrate up with the daily infusions and avoid side effects. There’s a lot to know and after taking a bad fall and NOT fracturing anything and having had a cervical surgery finding out that nobody knew how soft my cervical bones actually were until I was opened up on the table — there is no way I won’t finish the bone medicines and follow the protocol. I know six women who fell last winner and all fractured their bones. All the non-medicinal things I think are waste of money and are sold by snake oil salesman. And I’ve never heard of anybody significantly hardening their bones. I mean it’s good to exercise and keep a good diet, but after we are in menopause, nature takes its course and our bones become depleted, demineralized and soft. I am willing to do what it takes and we’ll stick with it till the end. I am 68 years old.

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Try ocean essence. Over the counter meds….i know a gl who took it for a year and went from osteoporosis to osteopenia

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Try ocean essence. Over the counter meds….i know a gl who took it for a year and went from osteoporosis to osteopenia

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@kaybollinger79 OceanEssence? Can you tell me more about. TIA

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AlgaeCal did not agree w/me--gave me loose stools. I have no idea what ingredient was the culprit (type of magnesium? algae? filler?) So my criteria was to find a product that had the same/more amount of bone-supporting minerals in the ingredients. However, I did not want the product to include Calcium, Magnesium, D-3, K2-Mk7 or C, as I already take the amounts/types that work for me separately & I have the freedom to adjust when needed after lab results. I also took Strontium Citrate separately (VitaCost), as recommended.

The product that I found is LDA Trace Mineral complex by SFI Health (Amazon, but I think I found it for less thru FullScript $18 for 30 capsules). It requires only 1-capsule a day.

I had a dr scare me into starting the Evenity drug, so I plan to continue taking Strontium Citrate when the course of injections are over. I continue to take the trace minerals product daily.

Sorry if this is TMI, but thought it would be helpful to understand my decision-making process.

Blessings on your decision-journey!

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@singingbones All the calcium I have tried so far have given me stomach upset: New Chapter, Algaecal Plus, Citracal, Coral Calcium. Anyone have ideas?

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