yeah, I just said to the neurologist I saw for 17 years: "well, okay, if you can't do any more for me, I'll go home and just take the opioids. That was when he sent me to the Orthopedic surgeon. (I had been to so many p.t., and doctors you wouldn't believe), when I walked into my saviors office, he didn't even need to finish the opening salvo. He said "you need surgery and you need it quickly" I said "do it." I was in surgery in about months. They did everything at L3, 4, 5 . He could have done more but I was working and needed the mobility. I've had several more surgeries before and after - I just take them in stride. The point is when you keep plugging away you can uncover the best surgeons and have the best chance at the best recovery. They all take months and take your earnest commitment. There is no free pass.