Looking for advice on Perineural invasion present

Posted by TK @tstump12, Mar 6, 2024

I had my radical prostatectomy 6 months ago. Final diagnosis included Perineural invasion present, Carcinoma focally extends to right apical resection tissue edge and High grade prostatic intraepithelial neoplasion (HGPIN). Tertiary pattern 5 is present with a gleason of 4 + 3. Sounds bad. Not sure how bad. Anybody out there with some of the same type of diagnosis? I am looking for interpretation and any advice on next steps?

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Since they never mentioned it maybe PNI is
not as serious as it seems. How long ago did you get your biopsy report.

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PNI is no longer considered to be an indication of aggressivess; it merely suggests the amount and lateral spread inside the gland.
That said, it does tell you that the tumor burden is larger and treatment may change accordingly.
Phil

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PNI and HGPIN are nothing to eorry about. But the phrase « Carcinoma focally extends to right apical resection tissue edge« I believe indicates a focal positive margin. Have you spoken with your team about this?

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Good question. I noted it in my biopsy report, and my physician didn't even address it (I forgot to ask him while there for the post-biopsy appointment). In my follow-up pre-op appointment, and in my post-op surgical pathology report review, I asked both times about PNI. My urologist said, with a near-flippant tone: "don't worry about it, everyone has some degree of PNI, it doesn't mean anything to the bigger picture." So...if there are any physicians following this conversation, please weigh-in on your opinion of the significance of PNI and how it impacts any outcome or treatment plan.

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My surgeon/urologist told me that PNI is still being debated. No defined conclusions.

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Good question. I noted it in my biopsy report, and my physician didn't even address it (I forgot to ask him while there for the post-biopsy appointment). In my follow-up pre-op appointment, and in my post-op surgical pathology report review, I asked both times about PNI. My urologist said, with a near-flippant tone: "don't worry about it, everyone has some degree of PNI, it doesn't mean anything to the bigger picture." So...if there are any physicians following this conversation, please weigh-in on your opinion of the significance of PNI and how it impacts any outcome or treatment plan.

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He’s correct - even though his tone is not very laudable. Don’t worry!
Phil

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