What does robotic prostatectomy look like? Is it like a vasectomy?

Posted by alive15years @alive15years, Aug 7 9:39am

This week I watched a video of a complete robotic prostatectomy procedure in Italy. It was on a medical education site for doctors. What a long drawn out complicated procedure! It took one hour 46 minutes of continuous resection, not including initial setup. They used 6 ports and had tiny scissors in the right hand that could also cauterize by passing high frequency AC current through them, with a grounding pad attached to the patient's skin. Tiny sparks and smoke can be seen. This is the same as the Bovie scalpel they have used to minimize bleeding during surgery since 1926. They also used a small clamp in the left hand, and it could be used for bipolar cauterization where current is passed from one half of the clamp, through to the other half of the clamp. Larger vessels were clamped with plastic clips.

With these devised blood loss was fairly minimal but suction was used to keep the surgical field clear and the surgeon had a pretty good view. The degree of magnification could be adjusted. During endoscopic surgeries they can pump in carbon dioxide gas to create an open cave to work in.

The urethra passes right through the prostate and a section about 5 to 8 cm long (1 to 1.5 inches) had to be removed with the prostate. It is amazing that they can simply sew the two ends of the urethra back together with dissolving sutures. They pass a Foley catheter through the urethra so that it can be clearly identified, and it is used to align the two parts of the urethra during suturing. The spermatic ducts also have to be cut, giving the same results as a vasectomy. Of course it is a much bigger surgery than vasectomy.

My wife is a retired embryologist and they sometimes did a wedge resection of a testicle to try to recover a few sperm in men who wanted IVF after a surgery like this, or after a vasectomy. The embryologist had to go fishing under a powerful binocular microscope, catch a sperm, cut off its tail before it could swim away, suck it into a tiny glass tube and then inject it into an ovum. Incubated it for a few days until it divided into about 8 cells before implanting it in the uterus.

They also had men provide a semen sample to freeze in liquid nitrogen before surgery so that it could be used for IVF later. You have to pay rental to keep the sample frozen.

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I took Miralax (inert polyethylene glycol) laxative for a week before surgery, and for a week or more after surgery, to ensure that I didn't have too much constipation after any of these surgeries. It is available over-the-counter.

Although it sounds like antifreeze, it is a long polymer producing a molecular weight over 3000, which does not chemically react with anything. It is colorless, odorless and tasteless. It is sufficiently large that it does not pass through the intestine walls into the blood stream. It is confined to the gut. Yet it is small enough to have an osmotic effect drawing water into the gut. This keeps the gut content moist and soft. Normally the colon extracts water and if the gut motility is slowed down by narcotic pain medications (even those given while you are under anesthesia) it gets dry and hard causing constipation. To be effective the daily dose is 7 to 17 grams a day. Since this is too much to put in a capsule, it is dissolved in any hot or cold drink or even water. It may take 10 minutes to dissolve.

I prefer to mix the powder 250 gm with 250 ml warm water to make a concentrated solution which has such a high osmotic strength that bugs don't grow in it, then I pour out 15 to 34 ml to put in my drink each day. It is a bit quicker and easier than waiting for the powder to dissolve. Making this bulk solution is my unofficial, unapproved scheme so do it at your own risk.

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I mentioned in my original post "During endoscopic surgeries they can pump in carbon dioxide gas to create an open cave to work in." They use carbon dioxide because it dissolves in water (producing mild carbonic acid), so it will gradually dissolve and dissipate. Of course carbon dioxide is normally dissolved in blood and carried to the lungs where it is exhaled. They normally let most of the gas out when the surgery is finished, but some may be left behind in cavities. I remember doing this for the first time during surgery and having to blow the patient up like a balloon to find the tumor we were looking for.

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Alive - good comments here . A RP is major surgery . It has improved so much over time . Uro's really know what they are doing . It is perfect ? No! But its a very good method of PC cure and/or control . Usually a small blast of External Beam Radiation Therapy ( EBRT) is requested to clean up some arrant cells in Pelvic region. Now , som of these cells could be PC and some may be perfectly normal Prostate cells too ! Your under ( or should be ! ) deep anaesthetic( ask Dr to ensure deep sleep and no pain when waking up etc ... ) . This should work out fine if you select this method . Best this about this method is having the Prostate out and FULL Biopsy on gland ! They find all sorts of things . Down side is longer recovery time than most forms of Radiation. We are here for you mate ! Keep us in the loop . James on Vancouver Island .

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With RP they do an internal vasectomy because there is no prostate to reconnect to.

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