Support For Those Quitting Prolia

Posted by formisc @formisc, Feb 13, 2024

I wanted to start this Discussion as a support thread for those who have already decided to quit Prolia and are in the process of transitioning out of Prolia to share our knowledge, thoughts, decisions and experiences as i had difficulty finding such posts from the various other Prolia threads. Those who have already completed their transition from Prolia are most welcome to contribute their experience.

It would help if you could include some basic info such as TScores, BTMs if available, number of Prolia injections taken, what med you transitioned to, length of time on relay drug and any feedback on effectiveness/reaction to the relay drug.

To prevent overlap with other Discussions already on this forum, the reasons for quitting Prolia need not be raised and it will be assumed that you have already done your research and made your decision. It is hoped that this Discussion will focus more on any feedback/advice that can assist in the transitioning process i.e. not on the 'Why' (quit Prolia) but more on the 'How' (to manage the transition).

Maybe i can start.

Background:
My TScores from my 1st DXA scan in May 2022 were:
Lumbar Spine -1.3
Femoral Neck -2.7
Total Hip -3.0
Unfortunately, my PCP did not order any BTMs so i do not have any baseline numbers.

My 1st Prolia shot was in July 2022, 2nd in Jan 2023 and my 3rd in July 2023.

In Dec 2023 after 18 months on Prolia, i did my 2nd DXA and the results were:
Lumbar Spine -1.1
Femoral Neck -2.6

I decided to quit Prolia before the 4th shot and started on weekly Alendronate in Jan 2024. To date, i have taken 7 Alendronate tablets.

Feedback on Alendronate:
The relay drugs most often cited are Reclast (most frequent) and Alendronate. Alendronate is not recommended for those with esophagus issues as it can irritate and damage the digestive tract.

I decided on Alendronate instead of Reclast as i was wary of taking in a full 1 year's dose of meds in one go and also because i read that the timing of the Reclast infusion can be tricky and the wrong timing may necessitate additional infusions. With Alendronate being a smaller weekly dose, the timing is not really an issue provided there is no delay in starting it at the time the Prolia shot is due.

The 2 days after the first Alendronate tablet and also after the 3rd tablet, i had a bit of stomach pain which went away after i took Veragel. From the 4th week to the 7th week, i have had an achy feeling at the side of my left knee. More surprisingly, i had 3 episodes of tinnitus after my 6th tablet, something which i have not experienced for a long time.

All the above side-effects have been bearable so i will continue with the Alendronate. I pray for the side-effects to cease as i do not want to go on Reclast and i read that Actonel is not potent enough to mitigate the rebound effect.

I plan to do a BTM test in Mar 2024 and quarterly thereafter for the 1st year and a DXA at the end of the 1st year. Depending on the results, i may stop the Alendronate or perhaps go on half-dosage for another 6 months instead of stopping cold turkey. Will also do a BTM at 18 months and a BTM cum DXA at 24 months of Alendronate as the rebound window supposedly stretches over 30 months from the last Prolia shot.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Osteoporosis & Bone Health Support Group.

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I am interested in this discussion. I have only had 2 Prolia injections before having a severe rash at my injection site. I switched to Alendronate and have taken it for 7 mos. I want to get off this and am taking it until my bone scan in Dec. ( I would go off it right now but scared of the rebound . I just do t feel like I can do this any more. I have IBS and my rhumotologist wants me to try injections but I am not going to do that again. My t scores were -4.2 My hips and 3.5 femoral.

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If your T-score is -4.2, you can't just stop all meds.

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I appreciate learning of everyone’s experiences. I’ve been on Prolia for two years, (4 injections)with no side effects to date. I had three spinal compression fractures in 2023. I will have a Dexa scan next month. I did get a bit stressed when I needed a root canal. I know having an extraction or implant is not an option on Prolia. The edodontist said even if he sent me to an oral surgeon he would refuse treatment because Prolia can cause complications. The endodontist had me start amoxicillin two days before the root canal and continue thru ten days as a preventative measure. He also put in calcium into the tooth with a temp seal. I will return to learn if this has worked. If not the option is to remove the tooth above the gum line, stitch the gum closed. The body will eventually absorb the part of the tooth that is left. My regular dentist said that is a procedure that is used sometimes in my situation. If the tooth is stable, a new crown will be next. Oral meds are not an option because I have a hiatal hernia and take Prilosec.

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Hi formisc,

Thanks for the complement on the video. I worked for Intel for 20 years and gave a lot of PowerPoint presentations so making it was a lot of fun. And thanks for the response to my post. I think people learn the most from open discussion.

A comment on the Cleveland Clinic video with Dr. Chad Deal. He makes the comment that “so when denosumab is started, I always remind the patient that it’s forever” is absolutely not true and irresponsible based on experts like Dr. John Bilezikian, Dr. Michael McClung (whose study he references), Dr. Serge Ferrari, as well as the studies he references later in his own presentation. Those studies show a rebound effect that lasts for about a year and can be mitigated by taking either Alendronate or ReClast or both. Yes, you will lose about 5% or ½ T-score in that year period for long term denosumab users, but you can gain multiple T-scores being on denosumab. I show some of these studies in my presentation. And to be clear on some of the other points he makes about fractures after stopping denosumab, those are only prevalent is you do not follow with a bisphosphonate. I show some of that in my presentation with details I did not talk to in the backup.

From the trainings I have attended, antiresorptive risk of ONJ or atypical fractures is well below the risk of a major osteoporotic fracture of not taking them, even long term. I have not heard one doctor argue against this point.

I have no idea on insurance coverage of Prolia but I could see that as an issue. If you stop Prolia too early, you are not left with many options to maintain your bone density for the rest of your life.

Prolia has its place, and in my mind, is almost never the first treatment for osteoporosis. But for some people, like myself, Evenity did not get me to a point that a bisphosphonate would get me out of the osteoporosis range. Prolia is the only option left and I will be on it for 10+ years to get there.

Like you, I’m not a doctor. That said, I’m an engineer looking at a whole bunch of data. And agree, I too am just providing my viewpoint so others can work with their doctor for the best treatment plan for them.

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Hello Michael!
I hope this finds you well!
I am strongly considering trying Evenity (severe T-Scot lumbar spine especially, and unfortunately also taking an aromatase inhibitor post breast cancer, which isn’t helping). Evenity seems to be best shot at reversing this rapid bone loss, though I’m scared to begin.
I just did a consultation with Keith McCormick who disagreed with Evenity and really feels I should do three years of Reclast (while on Letrozole) before starting Evenity. Any thoughts on that? I also noticed in your posts that Evenity didn’t help you as you’d hoped.

Thanks!

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I am wondering about Prolia and I am here for information. I was going to start with Forteo or Tymlos for 2 years and then on to Prolia. Sorry not related to coming of Prolia but I am very concerned about that and I just feel like there has been enough time for good data. This is so hard and scary! So the 73 year old 3 fracture including pelvis and L1 and T11. This is so hard and everything seems to be conflicting. I almost feel like it's a clinical trial and 20 years on Zoloft which was supposed to be safe gave me a horrible auto-immune that eats at your bones.

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I am wondering about Prolia and I am here for information. I was going to start with Forteo or Tymlos for 2 years and then on to Prolia. Sorry not related to coming of Prolia but I am very concerned about that and I just feel like there has been enough time for good data. This is so hard and scary! So the 73 year old 3 fracture including pelvis and L1 and T11. This is so hard and everything seems to be conflicting. I almost feel like it's a clinical trial and 20 years on Zoloft which was supposed to be safe gave me a horrible auto-immune that eats at your bones.

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Perhaps you can share a bit more info on this thread. Age, dexa scores, what you physician is saying about drug plan and sequencing of these drugs, anything else that might help us understand your situation. Thanks

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I am also looking for as many people as possible to tell about their health issues with OA and OP. I have both, and in remission after 13 years with RA. Suddenly for me...after stopping Prednisone, my upper body - my hands became swollen and painful - hands/wrists, lower arms/shoulders. This is after DX of OP and in need of hip replacement surgery as it's bone on bone. Assume, now they...are going to give me a choice of biologics. All that I have read about that leaves me anyway, terrified. Not one is safe nor claim to be but I mean, this disease has been with the human race probably since the cave man. So it is what it is. Roll the dice maybe and just take it, seems to be on the menu - to keep us going. I am 84 soon 85 Dec 4th. Artist. Was, till now. Turn to what I love, music and literature and my family and kitty for comfort. Hope to hear from someone soon, thank you ! Cynthia

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I am wondering about Prolia and I am here for information. I was going to start with Forteo or Tymlos for 2 years and then on to Prolia. Sorry not related to coming of Prolia but I am very concerned about that and I just feel like there has been enough time for good data. This is so hard and scary! So the 73 year old 3 fracture including pelvis and L1 and T11. This is so hard and everything seems to be conflicting. I almost feel like it's a clinical trial and 20 years on Zoloft which was supposed to be safe gave me a horrible auto-immune that eats at your bones.

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I used Forteo when the recommendation was to use it for 18 months. I had no issues with it and had great results. I tried Reclast after that and had terrible jaw pain. I had already tried all the other bisphosphonates and had terrible side effects. I did fine for close to 20 years. Now I have severe osteoporosis...again. I had some pretty ugly pain after my 1st Prolia injection. Not sure what to do now.

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I used Forteo when the recommendation was to use it for 18 months. I had no issues with it and had great results. I tried Reclast after that and had terrible jaw pain. I had already tried all the other bisphosphonates and had terrible side effects. I did fine for close to 20 years. Now I have severe osteoporosis...again. I had some pretty ugly pain after my 1st Prolia injection. Not sure what to do now.

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Can you clarify the sequencing of those drugs and whether there were gaps between different meds.
Did you have a stretch of time without any Osteoporosis drugs?

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Can you clarify the sequencing of those drugs and whether there were gaps between different meds.
Did you have a stretch of time without any Osteoporosis drugs?

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I tried pretty much all the bisphosphonates first and they gave me terrible GERD. I tried Evista but was concerned about the blood clot risks do to family history. I had a compound wrist fracture and that is when I did the forteo. The Reclast was was at the interval they recommended. I refused Prolia at that time and did vitamin d and not much calcium because I have Sarcoidosis. And a lot of walking. My bone densities were good until about 6 months ago. A gas of about 15 years I think.

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Perhaps you can share a bit more info on this thread. Age, dexa scores, what you physician is saying about drug plan and sequencing of these drugs, anything else that might help us understand your situation. Thanks

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I am actually not at a deciding point yet. I have a great spinal orthopedic doctor that I was actually seeing for kyphosis. My last bone density had osteopenia, and I haven't followed up like my rheumatologist wanted me to to get another one 3 years ago. I saw her after I fractured my pelvis. It was actually after a hip doctor didn't read an MRI until after I had finished my physical therapy which he didn't realize was a pelvic break. He was white when he came in the room. He had had the MRI for 3 months. I should have done swimming, bed rest, and walker. None of those. Just straight to physical therapy. Just a vent. The rheumatologist tried to scare me onto Fosamax. I took it once and quit. That was 3 years ago. Another freak fall. Fractured my L1. My T11 showed up after that and I have no idea how I fractured. I have been doing tons of research before I move on anything. I trust my Spinal doc. His mom is on Prolia after being on Fortea. She has osteo. AT Scripps in San Diego you go over your options with a pharmacist. Pros and cons, lifestyle, supplements. I really am kind of amazed that they are more holistic. They really want the patient making the choice after being informed. I don't think I have a choice. But bums me out is the quality of your bones after 10 years is then shot and you go on something like Fosomax. I even heard a department head of UCSD who specialized just in osteoporosis say that really at this point they really are in an unknown territory. Not enough time to know. And it was 20 years into an SSRI that everyone seems to be on that they found out some awful side effects and no one really is aware of them. One being bone loss! and another is a wicked autoimmune that I now have that has really effected bone loss!. I HATE drugs. But I have to have them for being bipolar. They saved my life literally. At 73 I am only on psych drugs. That's it.

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