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Ablation for lower back pain L4-5 S1

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I also had diagnostic nerve blocks for lumbar stenosis. The injections were horribly painful. I was yelling in pain and the doctor never stopped stabbing me! I won't go near a spinal injection ever again. As for ablation, the same doctor tried to schedule one for me without ever discussing it with me. I refused. After what I went through with the nerve blocks I am certainly not about to let someone electrocute me with needles that heat up to 124 degrees centigrade to cause 2nd degree burns! That's how an ablation destroys perfectly healthy nerves. Look it up online. The procedure does nothing to help the diseased skeleton. Then the nerves often grow back. A significant percentage of people get short term or no relief from nerve blocks and ablations. The studies are out there on the Internet from reputable hospitals and professional medical journals. There are older studies that give better rates of success, but those are based on the doctors' responses. The newer study based on patient responses gives much lower success rates. The doctor who tried to pressure me into an ablation admitted in person to me that they can't even see the nerves they are trying to deaden or destroy! I came to the conclusion that spine doctors who do a lot of blocks and ablations are incompetent sadists in love with a quick procedure that makes them lots of money. What ethical person would risk paralyzing a person by using destructive techniques performed blindly that can't be relied on to work? The doctor I had lied to me and told me he had done hundreds of blocks and no one had ever had a problem with pain. He also called the procedure "minor" and promised that I would be "relaxed and comfortable"! Ha! He used a benzodiazepine sedative, which does NOT stop pain. It puts the patient into a temporary state of mental illness called dissociation. The patient still feels the pain, but the doctor is counting on the other effect of benzodiazepines: amnesia. In other words they make you helpless and confused so you can't say stop. It's a deceit, and they know they can do it and get away with it because it's your word against theirs afterwards, and since you had the drug they can just say you remembered wrong. The drug did nothing but paralyze me while I was wide awake. I could not defend myself or even speak. Never again!

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Wow, I am so sorry you had those bad experiences. I have had numerous nerve blocks and ablations and they were nothing like that. Mine we all done with conscious sedation, either Versed or propofol. The only pain I felt was a small prick for the numbing medication he used to prevent pain from the big needle. They were all done under fluoroscopy where the doctor can see exactly where he is going and what nerve he is targeting. Maybe you need to find a more qualified doctor.

I agree they will not cure anything but they can make you comfortable until surgery becomes absolutely necessary.

Mine were GREAT. And it did cure my pain and postponed surgery for 18 years. It was painful but that is why they use the twilight meds. I had no pain. You had a bad doctor. So sorry. I've had many over the years for different regions and different diagnostics. I fought to have them not cut off the Medicare list for approved procedures. Your post is cynical and not true of doctors who find the process works and do not MAKE MONEY off of the work they do individually and who are on salaries and ARE ethical. I never had a problem like you are describing and I've been doing it periodically since 2000.

I didn't have ablation but I did have spinal injections. I felt nothing other than the first pin pick. He injected copious amounts of lidocaine to numb area.