Seems like Sandberg may have had a particularly aggressive form of PC from the outset. We don't know his Gleeson or PSA scores when originally diagnosed. To me it seems tough to draw conclusions without more clinical info on his case?
Every man’s prostate cancer is biological unique and treatment has to be tailored to each individual. Unfortunately, there is no one size fits all.
And as several of you have mentioned, how the patient participates and accepts treatment is critical. Some people try to ignore symptoms and rationalize them away. I have a good friend doing that, I finally convinced him to see a urologist.
Of course this news hits us all very hard - especially those who may be in similar situations. But we don’t know what we don’t know so it’s not something to stress over.
Although I am saddened by his passing I can’t help but fall back on the old saying: ‘ When your number’s up, it’s up…’
Guys, we’re all gonna die - and some of us will die having excellent bloodwork, ‘good numbers’ and everyone saying ‘but he looked great!’
Just the way it is…
This reminds me to live every day large and enjoy your time. I am stage 4, metastatic, BRCA 2 mutation, Gleason 4+5, ADT and radiation therapy have kept me alive since I was diagnosed exactly one year ago today. My PSA is undetectable and I lift weights 4 times a week and feel great, even on ADT. But I understand that nothing guarantees this disease will not change and do something else. As we all do, I hate this disease because how it changed my life, it also killed my brother back in 2006, he was 62.
Last year, I was curious as to how many celebrities and other public individuals (athletes, actors, politicians, financiers, and others in the spotlight) over the past few decades have been in the news with a diagnosis or death from prostate cancer. After less than an hour of searching, this was the list I amassed:
> Andre Dawson
> Andrew Lloyd Webber
> Andy Grove
> Arnold Palmer
> Ben Stiller
> Bill Bixby
> Bob Casey
> Bob Dole
> Brooks Robinson
> Cal Ripken
> Carlton Fisk
> Charlton Heston
> Colin Powell
> Darwin Deason
> Davey Lopes
> David Koch
> Dennis Hopper
> Dexter Scott King
> Dusty Baker
> Francois Mitterrand
> Frank Zappa
> Gary Cooper
> Glenn Thompson
> Gregg Olson
> Harry Belafonte
> Ian McKellen
> Jerry Brown
> Jerry Orbach
> Joe Torre
> John Kerry
> Johnny Ramone
> Ken Griffey, Sr.
> Langston Hughes
> Linus Pauling
> Lloyd Austin
> Mandy Patinkin
> Michael Bennet
> Michael Milken
> Mitt Romney
> Nelson Mandela
> O.J. Simpson
> Phil Lesh
> Phil Niekro
> Ryne Sandberg
> Rob Gardenhire
> Robert DeNiro
> Rod Stewart
> Roger Moore
> Ron Wyden
> Rudy Giuliani
> Ryan O’Neal
> Shannon Sharpe
> Sidney Poitier
> Stephen Fry
> Steve Garvey
> Stokely Carmichael
> Telly Savalas
> Thom Tillis
> Timothy Leary
> Ty Cobb
> Warren Buffet
Since then, many more have been reported in the news with prostate cancer at various stages. All of us have heard of many (or most) of those in that list. Despite all the media reporting given to these celebrities and their diagnoses, most men say they never heard about prostate cancer; as a result, never get their PSA tested.
Brian , the list is shocking ! PC seems to be everywhere . I boys up at the aquatic centre ( I know about 22 of them and see them regularly ) . I would say 40% have prostate cancer at various levels . Some quite young too at age 40 , 47 , 55 years old . My gosh , PC does not seem to get the attention it should . I am shocked at all the younger men getting PC. !
I'm Gleason 4+5 after surgery in November. I have some unpleasant indications - bladder neck invasion, multifocal, cribriform. I had my PSA checked a month ago at 0.02 - very low but disappointing to see anything detectable so soon after surgery. Next step is more PSA testing in October. Hearing how fast Sandberg's cancer progressed - and there could be more details that were not made public - makes me glad I have talked with a radiation oncologist about a consult to make sure we're taking the appropriate steps. Waiting for more bloodwork seems standard, but my surgery results don't seem to be standard.
My wife and I lived in an apartment house when I was in the Air Force. We live there over 2 years and the elderly couple who we rented from were very good to us. I recently found a letter written to my wife from our landlady. She sent it a few months after I went to Vietnam. Her husband had died with prostate cancer. She stated that it had spread all over his body and how he suffered before he passed. He seemed ok when I left. This letter had more meaning to me after my diagnosis and treatment of PC.
Of course this news hits us all very hard - especially those who may be in similar situations. But we don’t know what we don’t know so it’s not something to stress over.
Although I am saddened by his passing I can’t help but fall back on the old saying: ‘ When your number’s up, it’s up…’
Guys, we’re all gonna die - and some of us will die having excellent bloodwork, ‘good numbers’ and everyone saying ‘but he looked great!’
Just the way it is…
I'd just prefer not to die from stupidity, ignoring or neglecting issues. At 73, my goal is just another 7-10 years, so pending PSA results I may not complete my recommended 24 months ADT.
Last year, I was curious as to how many celebrities and other public individuals (athletes, actors, politicians, financiers, and others in the spotlight) over the past few decades have been in the news with a diagnosis or death from prostate cancer. After less than an hour of searching, this was the list I amassed:
> Andre Dawson
> Andrew Lloyd Webber
> Andy Grove
> Arnold Palmer
> Ben Stiller
> Bill Bixby
> Bob Casey
> Bob Dole
> Brooks Robinson
> Cal Ripken
> Carlton Fisk
> Charlton Heston
> Colin Powell
> Darwin Deason
> Davey Lopes
> David Koch
> Dennis Hopper
> Dexter Scott King
> Dusty Baker
> Francois Mitterrand
> Frank Zappa
> Gary Cooper
> Glenn Thompson
> Gregg Olson
> Harry Belafonte
> Ian McKellen
> Jerry Brown
> Jerry Orbach
> Joe Torre
> John Kerry
> Johnny Ramone
> Ken Griffey, Sr.
> Langston Hughes
> Linus Pauling
> Lloyd Austin
> Mandy Patinkin
> Michael Bennet
> Michael Milken
> Mitt Romney
> Nelson Mandela
> O.J. Simpson
> Phil Lesh
> Phil Niekro
> Ryne Sandberg
> Rob Gardenhire
> Robert DeNiro
> Rod Stewart
> Roger Moore
> Ron Wyden
> Rudy Giuliani
> Ryan O’Neal
> Shannon Sharpe
> Sidney Poitier
> Stephen Fry
> Steve Garvey
> Stokely Carmichael
> Telly Savalas
> Thom Tillis
> Timothy Leary
> Ty Cobb
> Warren Buffet
Since then, many more have been reported in the news with prostate cancer at various stages. All of us have heard of many (or most) of those in that list. Despite all the media reporting given to these celebrities and their diagnoses, most men say they never heard about prostate cancer; as a result, never get their PSA tested.
Seems like Sandberg may have had a particularly aggressive form of PC from the outset. We don't know his Gleeson or PSA scores when originally diagnosed. To me it seems tough to draw conclusions without more clinical info on his case?
Every man’s prostate cancer is biological unique and treatment has to be tailored to each individual. Unfortunately, there is no one size fits all.
And as several of you have mentioned, how the patient participates and accepts treatment is critical. Some people try to ignore symptoms and rationalize them away. I have a good friend doing that, I finally convinced him to see a urologist.
Of course this news hits us all very hard - especially those who may be in similar situations. But we don’t know what we don’t know so it’s not something to stress over.
Although I am saddened by his passing I can’t help but fall back on the old saying: ‘ When your number’s up, it’s up…’
Guys, we’re all gonna die - and some of us will die having excellent bloodwork, ‘good numbers’ and everyone saying ‘but he looked great!’
Just the way it is…
Are having ADT side effects?
Brian , the list is shocking ! PC seems to be everywhere . I boys up at the aquatic centre ( I know about 22 of them and see them regularly ) . I would say 40% have prostate cancer at various levels . Some quite young too at age 40 , 47 , 55 years old . My gosh , PC does not seem to get the attention it should . I am shocked at all the younger men getting PC. !
Not too much, hot flashes now and then, Exercise keeps the fatigue and joint pain from occurring.
I'm Gleason 4+5 after surgery in November. I have some unpleasant indications - bladder neck invasion, multifocal, cribriform. I had my PSA checked a month ago at 0.02 - very low but disappointing to see anything detectable so soon after surgery. Next step is more PSA testing in October. Hearing how fast Sandberg's cancer progressed - and there could be more details that were not made public - makes me glad I have talked with a radiation oncologist about a consult to make sure we're taking the appropriate steps. Waiting for more bloodwork seems standard, but my surgery results don't seem to be standard.
My wife and I lived in an apartment house when I was in the Air Force. We live there over 2 years and the elderly couple who we rented from were very good to us. I recently found a letter written to my wife from our landlady. She sent it a few months after I went to Vietnam. Her husband had died with prostate cancer. She stated that it had spread all over his body and how he suffered before he passed. He seemed ok when I left. This letter had more meaning to me after my diagnosis and treatment of PC.
I'd just prefer not to die from stupidity, ignoring or neglecting issues. At 73, my goal is just another 7-10 years, so pending PSA results I may not complete my recommended 24 months ADT.
Wow - a lot of baseball players on the list.