Hesitant to begin drug treatment for my osteoporosis

Posted by artistel81 @artistel81, May 14, 2024

Hello! My first post here as a new member. I am an active 69 year old female who was diagnosed many years ago with osteopenia but now have osteoporosis. When diagnosed with osteopenia I gave several drugs a try. I had side effects from all the oral choices I took, and when giving myself Forteo shots, broke out in hives all over my body. After that, I decided I would take my chances and go the natural route to keep my bones healthy with diet, consistent exercise and Calcium/Vitamin supplements. Fast forward to present time my last bone density scan was worrisome, (a -4,4 T score in my spine). An endocrinologist strongly suggested treatment, (shots or infusions), but I still fear side effects. I am currently trying to educate and empower myself by researching all options. I am already a bit overwhelmed with so many differing opinions. Drugs or no drugs?! The possible serious side effects of drug treatment still frighten me. Has anyone here diagnosed with more advanced osteoporosis, remained fracture free? Am I at such a high risk that I’m doomed without drug treatment? Thank you in advance for any advice, experiences, etc.

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@mcallister1002

Thank you for your reply. Thank you for letting me know Windyshores left the group. I'm glad you told me what drug you are using and that you haven't had any side effects. I am so afraid of side effects and mistakes that doctors can make. I am familiar with Dr. Kieth McCormack, I have been following him for awhile now. I have the "Great Bones book as well, on page 563, he talks about Forteo and Tymlos and states that his major caution with both drugs is that their effects on hip and forearm BMD must be monitored. Both drugs improve spine BMD but spine has higher trabecular bone than cortical bone, whereas hips and forearms have more cortical bone. He says that he has seen several patients with forearm densities plummert after two years on PTH analogs. My forearms are very skinny so that scares me! And my hip is also losing bone.
Has your hip BMD improved in the year you have been using it? Has you doctor been monitoring you?

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My hip has very mild osteopenia, and it has gotten a little better on medication. It's never been an issue - just my spine. My doctor isn't concerned at all about my hip. Also, I run and do hip exercises, so that helps.

You'd have to determine with your doctor the best course of action. Unfortunately there are never any simple answers with osteoporosis.

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@njx58

My hip has very mild osteopenia, and it has gotten a little better on medication. It's never been an issue - just my spine. My doctor isn't concerned at all about my hip. Also, I run and do hip exercises, so that helps.

You'd have to determine with your doctor the best course of action. Unfortunately there are never any simple answers with osteoporosis.

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Same with me, my spine is worse than my hips.
Have you had any problems with your forearms while on the drug? I can't afford loss of bone in my forearms.

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hello artistel81 (@artistel81)
I was recently diagnosed with osteoporosis and was petrified of having the Reclast infusion. The more I read about Reclast, the more afraid I was, but I also read that breaking a bone with osteoporosis is life altering and painful. I am 65 and pretty active and have been for most of my adult life thinking I would age without a lot of health issues, but it is what it is. I had my first Reclast infusion on July 3rd. I did have side effects, flu like systems and fever, but I went out to dinner on 7/3 and 7/4. I did take it easy and rest and drank lots of water and Gatorade. Prior to having the infusion, I ate very light meals and drank a lot of water and by a lot, I had about 90 ounces a day. On the day of the infusion, I continued drinking a lot of water and also took a Claritin pill which the nurse recommended would help with the side effects. I was also on Tylenol every 4 to 6 hours. The side effects were not pleasant, but I believe I made the best decision for me. We are all different and all of react differently to medication but staying active is extremely important not only for my physical but emotional health as well. And that is what was the deal breaker for me. I am sure you will make the right decision for you.

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@mic1953

Hello, I was also diagnosed with osteoporosis but I never saw the report that indicates where exactly (spine, hips, etc) I am most vulnerable. I saw an osteoporosis specialist and he suggested Evenity injections once a month for a year.

Upon researching this, I gathered that if this drug does in fact help my situation, after a year you no longer take it and the benefits stop as well. So, then it’s on to another drug with different side effects. And so on and so on.

I will take my chances without this uncertain drug therapy. I will take supplements and be very careful not to fall or do anything to break any bones.

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Hi mic1953. I sympathize with you as I was diagnosed this past April with osteoporosis. I'm still recovering from the shock but have and will be taking the more holistic approach, as you are doing. (diet geared towards bones, strength training/impact exercises) I had to reply because you have EVERY RIGHT to request YOUR DEXA report and UNDERSTAND it. It's YOUR body! Just FYI, the DEXA scan looks at the Femoral Neck of each Hip and the Lower Spine. They do this because these are the areas of the body that over time have shown are most prone to fracture as bone density decreases with age (as it does with EVERYONE!). The DEXA I had didn't include the wrist, but I've heard some do.

For the lower spine, they list it as L1, L2, L3, L4 and then provide a TOTAL #. Each lumbar spine is followed by a BMD number (Bone Mineral Density) and also includes a T-score. You should ask your osteoporosis specialist to show you the report and EXPLAIN it to you. I find it rather confusing and even confounding, as they come up with this score based on the HEALTHY BONES of a 30-year old! Then, they calculate how far you "deviate" with that standard deviation from the NORM. That's the T-score part. When I asked my doctor for the score to show how you compare to those your OWN age, as in, also the aging population (!!), she asked the radiologist, who scolded her for asking! They only give that out (I think it's called the Z-score), if you do NOT have osteoporosis. No fair! In any case, my lower spine is bad -- I do know I have some disc degeneration, so I often wonder if that's related. My doctor didn't know. I've done all sorts of core and spine exercises over the years, so the muscle will protect the bone. That is critical. Make sure you add strength training to your routine, 3 times a week. I went to a physical therapist and she put me on a program with 11 different exercises. I highly recommend you explore that. I lost my confidence at the gym after my diagnosis. I was so afraid I'd break a bone. I'm not afraid any more. In fact, I had a good workout today at the local YMCA fitness center. Muscle protects the bone. Balance exercises are good for you, too.

I wish the DEXA scan considered all the other bones in the body. Some bone experts say that bone density isn't the same as bone quality. The TBS, also known as Trabecular Bone Score analyzes the bone for bone quality using software. So you also will get a TBS score.

I wish you all the best with your bone and muscle strengthening program and lifestyle. I know it's not an easy diagnosis to deal with. I've been upset about it. My world has never been the same, but I'm coping with it. My doc said I have two years to turn this around without turning to medication. She believes I can do it! (she's such a supportive doctor!). Maybe because I'm on the younger side of "elderly" at 65 she's giving me this time? She knows I've been going to the gym for over a year - had taken a break from it during the pandemic - but before the pandemic, worked out fairly regularly for many years. I have to get another DEXA two years from now, and then we go from there. I have some other issue that may have contributed, but I won't get into here. I will say it relates to whether or not the calcium from my diet & supplementation was reaching the bones. After many months of research and even taking the CTX and P1NP bone marker tests so I know where I stand NOW, at the beginning, I finally started taking Vitamin K-2 on July 1st. That's a whole different topic. Check out that topic online. Vitamin K-2 as M-7 helps direct the calcium to your bones and not to your arteries. (another topic!) I did a lot of research on that before I made my purchase and started taking it. We'll see if that's been part of my problem. . . jury it out!

All the best to you. Check back and let us know how you're doing! Try to stay positive. I hope you found this helpful in some way? I've put so much time & energy into all of this, I like to share what I've learned with others in the hopes I can help. We're all in this together! You are not alone! 🙂

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@mcallister1002

Same with me, my spine is worse than my hips.
Have you had any problems with your forearms while on the drug? I can't afford loss of bone in my forearms.

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No. My forearm has osteopenia, but I do weights at the gym so I'm not concerned about it.

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@mcallister1002

I am a -4.0 on spine. I have started researching the drugs and it is scary to hear about the side effects. Why are you only 4 months on Evenity?
Why do you need Reclast after being on Tymlos and Evenity?

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The side effects scare me also. Dr. first prescribed Fosomax, after reading all the reviews I told her it was not appropriate for me. It’s not recommended for people with heartburn issues or implants. Had a girlfriend on it made her sick on a daily basis. Her Dr switched to another medication.
I am 80 this would be my first treatment. Whatever I decide to use. Still researching.
Good luck

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@vguzman1120

hello artistel81 (@artistel81)
I was recently diagnosed with osteoporosis and was petrified of having the Reclast infusion. The more I read about Reclast, the more afraid I was, but I also read that breaking a bone with osteoporosis is life altering and painful. I am 65 and pretty active and have been for most of my adult life thinking I would age without a lot of health issues, but it is what it is. I had my first Reclast infusion on July 3rd. I did have side effects, flu like systems and fever, but I went out to dinner on 7/3 and 7/4. I did take it easy and rest and drank lots of water and Gatorade. Prior to having the infusion, I ate very light meals and drank a lot of water and by a lot, I had about 90 ounces a day. On the day of the infusion, I continued drinking a lot of water and also took a Claritin pill which the nurse recommended would help with the side effects. I was also on Tylenol every 4 to 6 hours. The side effects were not pleasant, but I believe I made the best decision for me. We are all different and all of react differently to medication but staying active is extremely important not only for my physical but emotional health as well. And that is what was the deal breaker for me. I am sure you will make the right decision for you.

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This was most helpful for me as I am currently considering Reclast infusion.
Someone also recommended taking an anti nausea pill prior to treatment.
Did you experience nausea at anytime?

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@jkob

This was most helpful for me as I am currently considering Reclast infusion.
Someone also recommended taking an anti nausea pill prior to treatment.
Did you experience nausea at anytime?

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No nausea whatsoever but a bit lightheaded. We are all different so I would definitely do all the preventative meds. All in all it wasn’t pleasant but not as awful as I thought and so far the infusion has not altered my life or lifestyle. The Monday after the infusion I did a Pilates class-mostly stretching and elongating but was able to do the class. For me, it is about continuing to hike and do all the things that make me happy. At this point in my life, I’m looking at whatever time I have left on this earth to make them count and do all the things that bring me joy. This is a very personal decision and my experience may not be yours but I would do it all over again. If you finally decide to have the infusion, please let me know how it goes. I am absolutely positive that you will make the right decision for you.

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@njx58

No. My forearm has osteopenia, but I do weights at the gym so I'm not concerned about it.

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Thank you for your replies. Best wishes to you on your bone journey!

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@mayblin

Thanks for sharing!

If you are interested in calculating your FRAX score, you can use the following link:
https://frax.shef.ac.uk/FRAX/tool.aspx?country=9
In case your DXA includes TBS score, then FRAXPlus gives a more accurate FRAX score.

I think it's worth asking your endocrinologist whether adding Fosamax to your current HRT is necessary or offer additional benefits - especially if your uNTX shows adequate suppression (what's your lab reference range and/or your baseline?), your FRAX score low, and that your DXA results are improving.

The estrogen dose in Jinteli 1mg/5mcg is a standard one used in osteoporosis prevention. Are you considering exploring bioidentical form of HRT if you plan to use for a few years in the future?

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Thanks mayblin. I used the frax calculator and if I filled it out correctly, the ten year probability of a hip fracture is 2.4 and major osteoporotic is 11. I don’t know if those numbers are alarming or not.
My endocrinologist was set on getting me on meds: the first time I saw her, I told her that I was reluctant to take osteo drugs since I walk and lift weights/take multivitamins, calcium, k2, d3/eat healthy/on HRT everyday. She said I should be on meds and gave me a choice of 3—Fosamax, forteo or reclast. Then she wanted bloodwork (that’s another nightmare horror story about the phlebotomist at Labcorp) so at my next appointment, she prescribed Fosamax. I asked her if going on Fosamax was necessary because I showed bone growth and an improvement in my Dexa since I’ve been on HRT. She was adamant about taking the Fosamax. I haven’t started taking the Fosamax.
When I see my gyn, I will ask her if there’s an HRT she could prescribe with a natural form of progesterone.

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