Hesitant to begin drug treatment for my osteoporosis
Hello! My first post here as a new member. I am an active 69 year old female who was diagnosed many years ago with osteopenia but now have osteoporosis. When diagnosed with osteopenia I gave several drugs a try. I had side effects from all the oral choices I took, and when giving myself Forteo shots, broke out in hives all over my body. After that, I decided I would take my chances and go the natural route to keep my bones healthy with diet, consistent exercise and Calcium/Vitamin supplements. Fast forward to present time my last bone density scan was worrisome, (a -4,4 T score in my spine). An endocrinologist strongly suggested treatment, (shots or infusions), but I still fear side effects. I am currently trying to educate and empower myself by researching all options. I am already a bit overwhelmed with so many differing opinions. Drugs or no drugs?! The possible serious side effects of drug treatment still frighten me. Has anyone here diagnosed with more advanced osteoporosis, remained fracture free? Am I at such a high risk that I’m doomed without drug treatment? Thank you in advance for any advice, experiences, etc.
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I apologize if I misjudged your efforts. It sounded to me like you had heard only bad things about all the osteo meds and were avoiding them without looking into it further, and I was just wanting to encourage you to do so before giving up on them.
I am a -4.0 on spine. I have started researching the drugs and it is scary to hear about the side effects. Why are you only 4 months on Evenity?
Why do you need Reclast after being on Tymlos and Evenity?
I feel the same as you. I have used bone supplements for years to no avail. I am 71 with a -4.0 spine. I have not had any fractures yet. My new endocrinologist wants me to go on drugs. Part of me wants to just take my chances without going on the drugs, but when I read about how painful a fracture is I realize that is not the best option. Wish you all the best on your bone journey!
A pharmacist friend of mine told me that Fosamax really messes with your gut.
Windyshores left this group months ago. She is no longer active on the forum.
After a bone builder, you need a biphosphonate to preserve gains. I am into my second year on Tymlos. My T-score of -3.0 is now -2.0; probably better since my DEXA was six months ago. My plan for afterwards is to take Fosamax for a couple of years, then go on a drug holiday during which I'll have DEXA scans to monitor.
Or, who knows? I learned that Keith McCormick, the author of "Great Bones", took Fosamax years ago and then stopped using meds. He relies on nutrition and exercise, and a DEXA every two years. He is 71 years old and is still athletic. I'll probably consult with him later this year to get his thoughts on what to do.
My side effects on Tymlos have been extremely mild and short-lived. Nothing that would even keep me from leaving the house. It's been well worth taking, a hundred percent.
Hi, Well first, I like your screen name! I'm 5'0 and weight 105. I exercise about 40 minutes a day with weights and Loren Fishman's yoga for osteoporosis. My weights-work comes from Margaret Martin's melioguide.com. Check out her site. I walk about 2-3 miles a day and take 2 or 3 cardio dance classes a week. I see a nutritionist who recommended 1 capsule a day of K2. It's from Maxx Labs. I get it from Amazon. Each capsule has 500 mcg of Vitamin K2 (MK-4) and 100 mcg of K2 (MK-7). I don't understand any of it but that's what I take! Along with calcium (1200 a day) and D3 (2,000). My level of both calcium and D3 is good on blood tests so I think these are just maintenance doses. I hope this helps. Good luck! About me: I'm 73. I was on Fosamax for 2 years and my scores improved. I went off it about a year ago and went from a -2.5 Dexa (on my lower back) to a -2.6. The doc is bugging me to go back on Fosamax but I'm giving it another year of intensive exercise and diet. This is so hard! Also, did you get a trabecular bone score? Not all labs do it, but it measures the QUALITY (not just density) of bone. And mine is really good. But doctors seem to all say that if the density number goes below a certain point you need to go on drugs --without seeming to look at the whole person. Best of luck!
I became a Gerontologist in 1990. I was 35, I think. I had never heard of osteoporosis but did research and wrote presentations on the subject.
Have read a lot of studies on osteoporosis as well as osteopenia.
Have dealt with and counseled many females and some males who had both disease states and those who have broken hips, have been to the funerals of far too many women who died from a broke hip. Broken hip and spine issues, the complications related to both used to be the leading cause of death in women, and still is in some countries.
Your skeletal mass and strength is what holds everything together and without it life becomes extremely fragile with each month that passes in life.
The consequences of having osteoporosis is far worse than drug side effects to keep you from getting osteoporosis. It isn't so much the osteoporosis a it is the complications it causes.
Having osteoporosis can easily kill you, taking the drugs usually does not.
Thanks for sharing!
If you are interested in calculating your FRAX score, you can use the following link:
https://frax.shef.ac.uk/FRAX/tool.aspx?country=9
In case your DXA includes TBS score, then FRAXPlus gives a more accurate FRAX score.
I think it's worth asking your endocrinologist whether adding Fosamax to your current HRT is necessary or offer additional benefits - especially if your uNTX shows adequate suppression (what's your lab reference range and/or your baseline?), your FRAX score low, and that your DXA results are improving.
The estrogen dose in Jinteli 1mg/5mcg is a standard one used in osteoporosis prevention. Are you considering exploring bioidentical form of HRT if you plan to use for a few years in the future?
Thank you for your reply. Thank you for letting me know Windyshores left the group. I'm glad you told me what drug you are using and that you haven't had any side effects. I am so afraid of side effects and mistakes that doctors can make. I am familiar with Dr. Kieth McCormack, I have been following him for awhile now. I have the "Great Bones book as well, on page 563, he talks about Forteo and Tymlos and states that his major caution with both drugs is that their effects on hip and forearm BMD must be monitored. Both drugs improve spine BMD but spine has higher trabecular bone than cortical bone, whereas hips and forearms have more cortical bone. He says that he has seen several patients with forearm densities plummert after two years on PTH analogs. My forearms are very skinny so that scares me! And my hip is also losing bone.
Has your hip BMD improved in the year you have been using it? Has you doctor been monitoring you?
@petitefitsmartfemale , Sorry for my delayed reply. I have been away. It looks like @lilyrock8 has answered your question about the K2. I am taking the same dosage she mentioned -- K2MK4 500 mcg and K2MK7 100 mcg. There are varying opinions about optimal doses. I follow Keith McCormick's suggested dosages in his "Great Bones" book. I like that his doses aren't excessively high. I am also petite at 5 ft. 1.5 in. , 125 lbs.