Digestive issues

Posted by bumble81 @bumble81, Apr 14, 2020

I started having digestive issues last fall. By December I was told I had bilary dyskenisa and had my gallbladder removed.
That did not fix my problems.
I sometimes have traditional heartburn but mostly I have sour stomach and stomach pain mostly middle immediately below sternum and to the left. Increases after eating. I often feel like food did not make it into my stomach. Like it's stuck down there.

I will get this weird fast quiver like spasm deep inside. I can feel it with my hand I push down and so can my husband and it goes on for hours at a time. Anyone have that before? It's very strange but something inside is not working properly. I also have postprandial hypotension and intermittent difficulty swallowing.

My blood tests show slightly elevated liver enzymes but doc said they are not dangerously high. My stool is frequently bright yellow and liquid:(

Also I cannot seem to get a straight answer but do those of you with experience with ulcers did it cause excessive burping?

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Hi! I want to preface I am under the care of GI. I’m just looking for experiences or suggestions for conversations with my GI.I (33F) have had the following:2014 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitis2017 - severe upper cramping. Again, no testing but was told it was likely a stomach ulcer.2018 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitisOver the years I started to experience more symptoms until I’m where I’m at now.Now I have constant diarrhea (liquid or soft fluffy at best) 1-8 times per day. Typically it is pale or yellow. It comes in suddenly, typically in the AM but I do have occasional midday or evening/overnight. Little to no warning, which has lead to fecal incontinence. Lots of bowel sounds. Indigestion near daily, hours after eating at times. Fatigue. Burning/cramping sensations. Bloating and flatulence.I have had a colonoscopy/EGD with biopsy. All negative. Im still getting tests so more to come.I have tried Imodium, low-FODMAP, gluten free, dairy free, elimination diets, etc. I have tried pre/probiotics, digestive enzymes, antibiotics, oil or oregano, and various other dietician ordered supplements.Anyone else experience this? What was your outcome? Any advice on what I should ask my GI about?I know it’s possible but I’m scared I’ll end up with the “can’t find anything” IBS-D diagnosis and basically be sent to live like this.I have my next appointment in a week.Thank you for reading!

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Have you been tested for Crohn's Disease? It can only be definitively diagnosed in pathology. That would mean another colonoscopy and tissue samples sent into pathology. If it is positive, you will need to take one of the biologics. I am on Stelara for my Crohn's. Good luck!

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Hi! I want to preface I am under the care of GI. I’m just looking for experiences or suggestions for conversations with my GI.I (33F) have had the following:2014 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitis2017 - severe upper cramping. Again, no testing but was told it was likely a stomach ulcer.2018 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitisOver the years I started to experience more symptoms until I’m where I’m at now.Now I have constant diarrhea (liquid or soft fluffy at best) 1-8 times per day. Typically it is pale or yellow. It comes in suddenly, typically in the AM but I do have occasional midday or evening/overnight. Little to no warning, which has lead to fecal incontinence. Lots of bowel sounds. Indigestion near daily, hours after eating at times. Fatigue. Burning/cramping sensations. Bloating and flatulence.I have had a colonoscopy/EGD with biopsy. All negative. Im still getting tests so more to come.I have tried Imodium, low-FODMAP, gluten free, dairy free, elimination diets, etc. I have tried pre/probiotics, digestive enzymes, antibiotics, oil or oregano, and various other dietician ordered supplements.Anyone else experience this? What was your outcome? Any advice on what I should ask my GI about?I know it’s possible but I’m scared I’ll end up with the “can’t find anything” IBS-D diagnosis and basically be sent to live like this.I have my next appointment in a week.Thank you for reading!

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Me too. Been going on for a year and half ( sans the bloody stools)

Had your doctor done a GI infectious disease panel? ( biofire)
How about lactoferrin? Or fecal calprotectin? Have you traveled outside the country? Wrk eith animals? Or small children?

I would want to rule out:
WBCs
Cdiff
Campylobacter
Toxigenic strains of E coli
Parasites

I stopped using s
AREDS2 eye vitamins. Seems to be helping.

Only other thing I can think of is some horrible side effect of having had Covid or the vaccine

Best of luck figuring it and finding a resolution

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@chronisgirlie92: Your symptoms sound familiar. I went through many tests 4 yrs ago and finally the 24 hour Urine test revealed the underlying cause. It may be worth a discussion in your next Dr visit? Best to you…

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What was positive in the 24 hour urine?

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Profile picture for chronicgirlie92 @chronicgirlie92

Hi! I want to preface I am under the care of GI. I’m just looking for experiences or suggestions for conversations with my GI.I (33F) have had the following:2014 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitis2017 - severe upper cramping. Again, no testing but was told it was likely a stomach ulcer.2018 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitisOver the years I started to experience more symptoms until I’m where I’m at now.Now I have constant diarrhea (liquid or soft fluffy at best) 1-8 times per day. Typically it is pale or yellow. It comes in suddenly, typically in the AM but I do have occasional midday or evening/overnight. Little to no warning, which has lead to fecal incontinence. Lots of bowel sounds. Indigestion near daily, hours after eating at times. Fatigue. Burning/cramping sensations. Bloating and flatulence.I have had a colonoscopy/EGD with biopsy. All negative. Im still getting tests so more to come.I have tried Imodium, low-FODMAP, gluten free, dairy free, elimination diets, etc. I have tried pre/probiotics, digestive enzymes, antibiotics, oil or oregano, and various other dietician ordered supplements.Anyone else experience this? What was your outcome? Any advice on what I should ask my GI about?I know it’s possible but I’m scared I’ll end up with the “can’t find anything” IBS-D diagnosis and basically be sent to live like this.I have my next appointment in a week.Thank you for reading!

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@cjval52 & chronisgirlie92: Neuroendocrine cancer small intestine with metastases in liver caused the digestive symptoms. Many drs pointed to Chrones, Irritable bowel, etc erroneously!
Diagnosis biopsy from exploratory endoscopic procedure gave the Pathologist what he needed plus I had 2nd opinion by another Pathologist. Very slow growing as a rule - just need monthly shot & surveillance from NET Oncologist; but if progression there are many effective treatments. It can be like a chronic disease - not the cancer we all are afraid of. Initial treatment stopped the digestive issues within a month - without it I would still be in the bathroom or getting more tests! The GA PET scan tracts tumor growth and reveals exact location of tumors. The 24hr urine test was essential in specific dx. Many of my peers qualifies for surgery - removing the offending NET primary tumor tissue.
I am only sharing my tale because I would hate for you to spend valuable time & money having test after test with no answers. My case is a rare form of cancer I admit, but if it could happen to me it can happen to you.

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@cjval52 & chronisgirlie92: Neuroendocrine cancer small intestine with metastases in liver caused the digestive symptoms. Many drs pointed to Chrones, Irritable bowel, etc erroneously!
Diagnosis biopsy from exploratory endoscopic procedure gave the Pathologist what he needed plus I had 2nd opinion by another Pathologist. Very slow growing as a rule - just need monthly shot & surveillance from NET Oncologist; but if progression there are many effective treatments. It can be like a chronic disease - not the cancer we all are afraid of. Initial treatment stopped the digestive issues within a month - without it I would still be in the bathroom or getting more tests! The GA PET scan tracts tumor growth and reveals exact location of tumors. The 24hr urine test was essential in specific dx. Many of my peers qualifies for surgery - removing the offending NET primary tumor tissue.
I am only sharing my tale because I would hate for you to spend valuable time & money having test after test with no answers. My case is a rare form of cancer I admit, but if it could happen to me it can happen to you.

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Thank you for sharing. I know it is highly personal and appreciate your candor. I am REALLY tired of tests that tell me nothing and all the “let’s try this” ( not working).

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Hi! I want to preface I am under the care of GI. I’m just looking for experiences or suggestions for conversations with my GI.I (33F) have had the following:2014 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitis2017 - severe upper cramping. Again, no testing but was told it was likely a stomach ulcer.2018 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitisOver the years I started to experience more symptoms until I’m where I’m at now.Now I have constant diarrhea (liquid or soft fluffy at best) 1-8 times per day. Typically it is pale or yellow. It comes in suddenly, typically in the AM but I do have occasional midday or evening/overnight. Little to no warning, which has lead to fecal incontinence. Lots of bowel sounds. Indigestion near daily, hours after eating at times. Fatigue. Burning/cramping sensations. Bloating and flatulence.I have had a colonoscopy/EGD with biopsy. All negative. Im still getting tests so more to come.I have tried Imodium, low-FODMAP, gluten free, dairy free, elimination diets, etc. I have tried pre/probiotics, digestive enzymes, antibiotics, oil or oregano, and various other dietician ordered supplements.Anyone else experience this? What was your outcome? Any advice on what I should ask my GI about?I know it’s possible but I’m scared I’ll end up with the “can’t find anything” IBS-D diagnosis and basically be sent to live like this.I have my next appointment in a week.Thank you for reading!

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How recent was your colonoscopy?

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Hi! I want to preface I am under the care of GI. I’m just looking for experiences or suggestions for conversations with my GI.I (33F) have had the following:2014 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitis2017 - severe upper cramping. Again, no testing but was told it was likely a stomach ulcer.2018 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitisOver the years I started to experience more symptoms until I’m where I’m at now.Now I have constant diarrhea (liquid or soft fluffy at best) 1-8 times per day. Typically it is pale or yellow. It comes in suddenly, typically in the AM but I do have occasional midday or evening/overnight. Little to no warning, which has lead to fecal incontinence. Lots of bowel sounds. Indigestion near daily, hours after eating at times. Fatigue. Burning/cramping sensations. Bloating and flatulence.I have had a colonoscopy/EGD with biopsy. All negative. Im still getting tests so more to come.I have tried Imodium, low-FODMAP, gluten free, dairy free, elimination diets, etc. I have tried pre/probiotics, digestive enzymes, antibiotics, oil or oregano, and various other dietician ordered supplements.Anyone else experience this? What was your outcome? Any advice on what I should ask my GI about?I know it’s possible but I’m scared I’ll end up with the “can’t find anything” IBS-D diagnosis and basically be sent to live like this.I have my next appointment in a week.Thank you for reading!

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Hi Chronicgirl,
Is your neuroendocrine tumor anything like a Carcinoid tumor? Many years ago I had a friend who had what she was told was a Carcinoid tumor and when I looked it up I think it was also called a neuroendocrine tumor.
She did very well for many years, kayaking with me and usually feeling pretty good.
I am just curious if you may have the same thing?
Margot

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Hi! I want to preface I am under the care of GI. I’m just looking for experiences or suggestions for conversations with my GI.I (33F) have had the following:2014 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitis2017 - severe upper cramping. Again, no testing but was told it was likely a stomach ulcer.2018 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitisOver the years I started to experience more symptoms until I’m where I’m at now.Now I have constant diarrhea (liquid or soft fluffy at best) 1-8 times per day. Typically it is pale or yellow. It comes in suddenly, typically in the AM but I do have occasional midday or evening/overnight. Little to no warning, which has lead to fecal incontinence. Lots of bowel sounds. Indigestion near daily, hours after eating at times. Fatigue. Burning/cramping sensations. Bloating and flatulence.I have had a colonoscopy/EGD with biopsy. All negative. Im still getting tests so more to come.I have tried Imodium, low-FODMAP, gluten free, dairy free, elimination diets, etc. I have tried pre/probiotics, digestive enzymes, antibiotics, oil or oregano, and various other dietician ordered supplements.Anyone else experience this? What was your outcome? Any advice on what I should ask my GI about?I know it’s possible but I’m scared I’ll end up with the “can’t find anything” IBS-D diagnosis and basically be sent to live like this.I have my next appointment in a week.Thank you for reading!

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You said "I have tried pre/probiotics, digestive enzymes, antibiotics, oil or oregano, and various other dietician ordered supplements."

Did you try Creon? Have you been tested for EPI?

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Hi! I want to preface I am under the care of GI. I’m just looking for experiences or suggestions for conversations with my GI.I (33F) have had the following:2014 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitis2017 - severe upper cramping. Again, no testing but was told it was likely a stomach ulcer.2018 - severe lower cramping with bloody stool. No testing was done but was told likely diverticulitisOver the years I started to experience more symptoms until I’m where I’m at now.Now I have constant diarrhea (liquid or soft fluffy at best) 1-8 times per day. Typically it is pale or yellow. It comes in suddenly, typically in the AM but I do have occasional midday or evening/overnight. Little to no warning, which has lead to fecal incontinence. Lots of bowel sounds. Indigestion near daily, hours after eating at times. Fatigue. Burning/cramping sensations. Bloating and flatulence.I have had a colonoscopy/EGD with biopsy. All negative. Im still getting tests so more to come.I have tried Imodium, low-FODMAP, gluten free, dairy free, elimination diets, etc. I have tried pre/probiotics, digestive enzymes, antibiotics, oil or oregano, and various other dietician ordered supplements.Anyone else experience this? What was your outcome? Any advice on what I should ask my GI about?I know it’s possible but I’m scared I’ll end up with the “can’t find anything” IBS-D diagnosis and basically be sent to live like this.I have my next appointment in a week.Thank you for reading!

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Hi. sorry to hear about your struggle. Here's a VERY long shot I hope you will read about: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23392-hypochlorhydria I had come to a complete dead end after several years and stumbled across a post on this Mayo Clinic Connect that mentioned Betaine HCL. Curious, I looked it up and went down yet another rabbit hole of research. I fit the profile so well that I tried it, not exactly the recommended way of going about things, but the result was shocking: I can eat a full meal without any pain, gas, or bloating. After a couple of weeks, I'm becoming more convinced that this has been my problem. I wish one of 5 GI doctors had suggested investigating digestive juices. In a few months if the success continues, I will know the problem was low stomach acid. It was causing, undigested food, fermenting, probably malnutrition, symptoms of blockage, and attacks of severe pain along with the chronic pain and inability to eat. I wish you the best.

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My daughter 25 had digestive issues for many years and the GI doctors and PCP ruled out saying it is stress related.
Past one year she has been suffering with the following
1. Early satiety, Feeling full with little food. Throwing up after each meal and even water.
2. On Ensure 2-3 sips every hour and liquid IV hydration every 1 hour in 2-3 sips
3. 2-3 times a week throwing up green bile in the mornings
4. Chronic diarrhea
5. Chronic nausea
6. Chronic upper abdominal pain
7. Chronic Ribs and mid back pain
8. Chronic lower abdominal bloating.
9. Sternum pain
10. Feel like food stuck in esophagus.
11. Candida yeast infection for a year
12. Chronic acid reflux
13. Weight loss from 110 to 89 lbs
14. Metallic taste in mouth
15. Rashes on both the palms and fingers
16. Tachycardia
17. Anxiety
18. mood swings
19. low energy
20. Chronic fatigue
21. Body pain
22. Brain fog
23. Confusion
24. Trouble concentrating
25. Forgetfulness
26. Hot flashes
27. Headache
28. Tremors
29. insomnia
30. Belching and burps for a week now
31. Rectal bleeding on some medication.
Done number of tests and diagnosis was Abnormal Rumination syndrome
1. Endoscopy & colonoscopy (Nov 2024) Normal
2. Abdominal ultrasound (Jan 2025) Normal
3. Chest CT without contrast (Jan 2025) Normal
4. H. pylori breath test (Mar 2025) Normal
5. Gastric emptying study (Mar 2025) Normal
6. Stool test (Jan 2025) Normal
7. Abdominal MRI (Mar 2025) Normal
8. SIBO test (Mar 2025) Normal
9. Esophageal manometry (May 2025): abnormal, consistent with rumination syndrome
Scheduled appointments with other specialists
Endocrinologist
Speech Therapist
Dietician
Behavior Therapist
She is working full time and business trips.
As a mother it’s hard to see her suffer like this.
Any body else faced this type of symptoms. And what’s the diagnosis and treatment.

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