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Fun with ADT and testosterone

Prostate Cancer | Last Active: 4 days ago | Replies (15)

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@brianjarvis

Yes, I was on active surveillance for about 9 years, before choosing radiation treatment. During treatment, my PSA was close to undetectable while on ADT in 2021; over those months my PSA was 0.008, < 0.008, and 0.008. Now, four years after treatment (I’ll be 70y in a week), my PSA remains stable - I just had my 4-month PSA test this morning; it was 0.473 ng/mL. So, we’re now moving to every 6-month PSA tests.

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As for testosterone (T) recovery after ADT —> Since you were on Lupron for 7 years (and at 77y), it will likely take more time for T levels to recover - longer than just the 8 months you’ve been on Orgovyx.

In the HERO study (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2588931123002900) comparing Orgovyx to Lupron. in addition to other factors affecting T recovery, “….Men ≤65 yr and those with baseline testosterone greater than the median had a higher incident rate of testosterone recovery…..”

This 2024 study discusses it: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38552845/

This 2008 study discusses it: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18279929/

The full results of that HERO study comparing Orgovyx to Lupron should be of interest to anyone interested in comparing T recovery.

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Those pubmed articles show 53% still at castrated Testosterone levels after 31 months. And they didn’t spend 8 years on ADT and I am 77.

At the rate I have been rising I would be Over 200 in less than 16 months.

My cancer is very aggressive, I went from PSA of .2 to 1 in 18 days when I tried to go from 4 Zytiga to 3, and I was also on Lupron. I can’t take a chance of having my testosterone rise So back on Orgovyx.