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Testosterone Recovery after stopping orgovyx

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My experience, albeit not sure what the question is...

I did 12 months of Orgovyx, April 2023-April 2024. We measured PSA every three months since and T twice, at three - 328 and six months - 445, start point at treatment was 608. I have my upcoming Medicare annual wellness exam where my PCP does labs and he's included T

So at seven weeks, 45 may not be at the same rate mine was.

I am not sure why I recover so "well" after ADT. One theory I've seen literature on is the role of exercise in T recovery, I go to the gym most days, other days I ride my bike. I take care of all the yard work, active vacations where we hike a lot...so, maybe?

Perhaps the other question is TRT. The old adage is T is fuel for the fire...I am not sure of that. When I came off triplet therapy in May of 2017 with my last 90-day Lupron shot, my T recovered in a similar pattern. It was four plus years before my PCa started acting up. After 12 months of Orgovyx, my PCa lays quiet.

So, if T is the fuel, my PCa should have reared its ugly head long before it did after triplet therapy and even now, it should have. My medical team has no explanation, nor I have I found any in my literature searches. They and I just say, be happy, I am. There is a noticeable difference though as I say, the only noticeable difference between what I do on, and off ADT is how I feel doing it.

So, if your medical team does not want to discuss TRT, find others. I have fired two urologists and an oncologist over these 11+ years for their inability to actively listen, be open to other ideas and share in decision making.

Kevin

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Kevin, I'm with you on the thinking about T/TRT regarding stimulating the prostate cancer, as I have previously posted. I have been on TRT for about 6 months and all is well with undetectable PSA. My oncologist at Hopkins primarily treats men with oligo metastatic disease with aggressive triplet therapy, radiation/RP to primary site and MDT. Those that respond (significant majority) are taken off ADT after one year and T allowed to recover. If it doesn't they are put on TRT.

I agree that I don't believe the concept that T consistently fuels all prostate cancer is correct. It is likely much more complicated and depends on many factors. No question that long term ADT is detrimental to QOL but also general health. Does prolonged T suppression promote development of castrate resistant disease? I don't know the answer but it seems reasonable that it might contribute.

T deficiency affects men differently. I was pretty miserable. The restoration of my T levels has been night and day for me. At 72, my QOL is important. When I last saw my MO at Hopkins in 10/24 prior to putting me on TRT, he said to me "you are a 70 yo man living in a 90 yo old body" with T suppression. It was his idea to put me on TRT, not mine. But I all in.

Dr Mark Schulz of PCRI said if My T doesn't go up from 45, he is open for TRT. I exercise regularly including 3 times at gym working out for an hour under semi-private lessons.
See what happens in the next 3 months.