Happy and worried

Posted by zzotte @zzotte, May 15 8:08am

So I went to see my medical oncologist yesterday, at a Center of Excellence facility with a renowned Doctor, we went over my biopsy and pet scan, so he explained to me that the spots over my shoulder, ribs, hips and back are very very small the cancer is aggressive but very slow ( kind of confusing to me ) and has been going one for at least a decade he is very reluctant in treating it, he said we can do the hormone Therapy using two kinds of meds one is a shot every 3 months and the other is 4 pills, and nothing else if psa goes to nothing we just watch for a few years and see what happens by them maybe other treatments available, from what I read the course of therapy normally prescribed is a trio, so I asked, he informed me that chemo will not work, and radiation not recommended, I request that radiation treatment be explored ( so consultation it’s on the way) so it’s generic testing which may change the course of treatment, So I’m happy about the fact that even though it’s no cure it’s controlled if hormone therapy works. Has anyone here in the same situation? Thanks
zzotte

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@jeffmarc

UCSFHealth and NIH say
After 30 sessions of external beam radiation therapy (EBRT) for prostate cancer, most men experience a mix of short-term side effects, which can vary in intensity and duration:
• Fatigue is very common and can persist for several weeks after treatment ends.
• Urinary symptoms such as increased frequency, urgency, weaker stream, burning, and sometimes blood in the urine often develop midway through treatment and may last a few weeks after finishing, but typically improve over time.
• Bowel issues like diarrhea, softer or more frequent stools, rectal irritation, or occasional blood are also common, with most symptoms resolving within weeks, though some may persist longer.
• Sexual side effects, particularly erectile dysfunction, can occur and may persist or worsen over time.
• Emotional responses include anxiety about whether the treatment was successful, but many men adapt to the changes, often normalizing symptoms as part of aging.
Most men find the treatment more manageable than expected, though some side effects can be bothersome. While many symptoms improve within a few months, a minority may experience longer-term issues with urinary, bowel, or sexual function. Overall, quality of life tends to recover, but ongoing support and communication with healthcare providers are important

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Thank you Jeff,
Zzotte

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@jeffmarc

UCSFHealth and NIH say
After 30 sessions of external beam radiation therapy (EBRT) for prostate cancer, most men experience a mix of short-term side effects, which can vary in intensity and duration:
• Fatigue is very common and can persist for several weeks after treatment ends.
• Urinary symptoms such as increased frequency, urgency, weaker stream, burning, and sometimes blood in the urine often develop midway through treatment and may last a few weeks after finishing, but typically improve over time.
• Bowel issues like diarrhea, softer or more frequent stools, rectal irritation, or occasional blood are also common, with most symptoms resolving within weeks, though some may persist longer.
• Sexual side effects, particularly erectile dysfunction, can occur and may persist or worsen over time.
• Emotional responses include anxiety about whether the treatment was successful, but many men adapt to the changes, often normalizing symptoms as part of aging.
Most men find the treatment more manageable than expected, though some side effects can be bothersome. While many symptoms improve within a few months, a minority may experience longer-term issues with urinary, bowel, or sexual function. Overall, quality of life tends to recover, but ongoing support and communication with healthcare providers are important

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I had 28 sessions of EBRT in the middle of six months of ADT (on Orgovyx).

What Jeff describes fits my experience pretty well - only no experience of blood in urine or stool.

I have a sense that the emotional responses, in my case, were more due to the ADT than the RT - but who knows?

I'm 5-1/2 months post-RT and 2 months post-ADT, and side effects are mostly gone. Still some level of sexual dysfunction, but that seems to be improving.

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@northoftheborder

Sounds like Lupron (a shot every three months) and one of the -lutamides (I take 4 Apalutamide pills every day). If my guess is correct, then the goal is to put the cancer to sleep for a while by blocking androgens like testosterone (its main trigger) at both ends:

Lupron is an ADT, which blocks your body from producing testosterone.

The -lutamides are ARSIs, which block cancer cells from receiving testosterone and other androgens (even, to a certain extent, once tumours become castrate-resistant and evolve to produce their own androgens).

It sounds like a good first strategy to my layperson's ears. If they reduce your PSA to undetectable in a few months (especially on the uPSA test), then you'll know that the cancer has gone dormant.

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I'm on exactly the same doublet therapy. Had a blood test test today(after three months on the protocol), and PSA is .01. Given that I'm 83, I'm hoping this might see me through for a few years. But who knows?

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@nparadisum

I'm on exactly the same doublet therapy. Had a blood test test today(after three months on the protocol), and PSA is .01. Given that I'm 83, I'm hoping this might see me through for a few years. But who knows?

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Sounds like you're in a pretty good place at age 83 with your PSA down to 0.01.

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@northoftheborder

Sounds like you're in a pretty good place at age 83 with your PSA down to 0.01.

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Yeah. No complaints now. But I also know cancer has a mind of its own and that I should live in the moment.

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@northoftheborder

Sounds like you're in a pretty good place at age 83 with your PSA down to 0.01.

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Agree.

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