Biden will be here soon: Former President metastatic prostate cancer

Posted by peterj116 @peterj116, 1 day ago

"On Friday, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, characterized by a Gleason score of 9 (Grade Group 5) with metastasis to the bone."
"While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management. The President and his family are reviewing treatment options with his physicians," the statement continued.

As a non-American watching the last 4 years from afar, I make no comment.

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@brian5837

Where did you see the Otis Brawley, comment? Thanks.

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The comment was published yesterday, May 18, in the Washington Post. Here is a link to the URL for the article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/18/biden-prostate-cancer/

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@surftohealth88

Don't listen too much what "news" anchors tell, they always sensationalize things to sound "interesting" and sometimes even tell stupid things that are not true.

Yesterday BBC anchor said that prostate cancer is the second most deadly cancer - he speed read somewhere that prostate cancer is the second most common disease in man that can cause death (the first is cardiovascular disease) and than wrongly made conclusion that it is the second most deadly cancer - could not be further from the truth !

Also, every single patient is different and has different outcomes no matter what the stage is. Every prostate specialist will confirm that. So just ignore news *hugs and keep your positive attitude since it is one of the most important things in fighting any disease and especially PC. Just do not watch news for some time or skip that segment.

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Thanks, surf, for the positivity.

It's just one of those things. Most days I feel good physically and mentally, and things are going well and I'm optimistic. Then, once in a while, I feel like OH CRAP! I've got cancer!

I also got back test results today of a new biopsy, and it's not good. And, the weather is stormy. And the squirrels are eating fruit from my trees.

I need to go to the gym and listen to some good music. And I will NOT listen to the news.

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@bluegill

Thanks, surf, for the positivity.

It's just one of those things. Most days I feel good physically and mentally, and things are going well and I'm optimistic. Then, once in a while, I feel like OH CRAP! I've got cancer!

I also got back test results today of a new biopsy, and it's not good. And, the weather is stormy. And the squirrels are eating fruit from my trees.

I need to go to the gym and listen to some good music. And I will NOT listen to the news.

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Welcome to prostate cancer mood swings.
Most days, we don't think about & just get on with life.
But some days (sometimes more than once in a day) we just get dragged down by reminders.

Even 9 months on I still hate the incontinence & bad days really drag me down.
We just have to drag ourselves through the day & hope the day ends soon.
I've gone to bed at 7:30 after a bad day many times, just to make the day end, so I can start fresh the next day.
You're doing better than you think - and you're stronger than you think.
"Helpful" comments from others can just be laughed off.
My favourite one after talking about prostate removal was "That's ok. You've still got another one".
Ummm... what?

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I feel a little better now. I went to the gym and increased the weights a bit.

Also had an early afternoon freshly ground gourmet light roast cup of coffee.

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@bluegill

Thanks, surf, for the positivity.

It's just one of those things. Most days I feel good physically and mentally, and things are going well and I'm optimistic. Then, once in a while, I feel like OH CRAP! I've got cancer!

I also got back test results today of a new biopsy, and it's not good. And, the weather is stormy. And the squirrels are eating fruit from my trees.

I need to go to the gym and listen to some good music. And I will NOT listen to the news.

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What were the biopsy results?

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@bluegill

This Biden thing has really got me down. It seems that lots of people are shocked by how "horrible" his type of cancer is, but my numbers and his are almost identical. There is no evidence mine has metastasized yet, but it's pretty clear that mine is no longer hormone-sensitive.

So, I thought I was feeling good and doing well, but now I feel crappy.

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I'm sorry to hear that. I have almost exactly what former President Biden has (mCSPC, though I don't know if his is oligometastatic). The background info in some of the news stories is seriously out of date. Our prospects are much better than they were just a few years ago.

The complicating factors for President Biden could be age and overall health, which could preclude him from getting the strongest available treatments.

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The biopsy results are full of words I don't understand, but I do get that 8, 9, and 10 are good scores for a math quiz, but not for Gleason.

So, basically, 5 years ago my prostate was full of cancer. Now, it's full of cancer.

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@johndavis60

Seems odd to me that his cancer would have progressed this far without them knowing. I would think a PSA test would have been part of his yearly physical. Even aggressive prostate cancer would take years to metastasize to the bones.

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It might not be odd at all —> Current USPSTF guidelines recommend against PSA screening after age 70 (https://www.uspreventiveservicestaskforce.org/uspstf/recommendation/prostate-cancer-screening).

So, it would be interesting to know if his doctors strictly followed current USPSTF guidelines. Did he even have a PSA screening test last year (or even the past decade) as part of his annual health exams?

Also, there is a type of prostate cancer - called neuroendocrine prostate cancer (NEPC) - where the PSA levels are often low or normal, making it difficult to detect using traditional PSA testing. NEPC is an aggressive form of prostate cancer.

Many unanswered questions.

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@ava11

I assume he was being regularly screened for PSA. Still his doctors didn't catch cancer before it is metastasized. Bad luck or he wasn't being screened for PSA?

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It’s possible that he didn’t have regular PSA years. Current USPSTF guidelines recommend against PSA screening after age 70 (https://www.uspreventiveservicestaskforce.org/uspstf/recommendation/prostate-cancer-screening). So, it would be interesting to know if his doctors strictly followed current USPSTF guidelines. Did he even have a PSA screening test last year (or even the past decade) as part of his annual health exams?

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@northoftheborder

Routine PSA screening wasn't the standard recommendation for many years, as a knee-jerk reaction to overtreatment of low-grade PCa 20+ years ago. I've still had smug jerks explaining to me online why it isn't necessary, based probably an outdated example from their intro stats class. 😕

Fortunately, many doctors kept ordering the test anyway, and now the recommendation is starting to shift back after the predictably-disastrous consequences.

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The issue with PSA testing occurred in 2012 when the US Preventative Services Task Force recommended against routine prostate cancer screening (assigning the screening a “D” recommendation: https://www.uspreventiveservicestaskforce.org/uspstf/recommendation/prostate-cancer-screening-2012).

That one decision led to many of the advanced cases we see today.

However, due to political pressure, they upgraded that recommendation in 2018 (which is the current guideline). These current USPSTF guidelines recommend against PSA screening after age 70 (https://www.uspreventiveservicestaskforce.org/uspstf/recommendation/prostate-cancer-screening).

Fortunately, few doctors follow this recommendation - except perhaps Presidents’ doctors…..

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