Biden will be here soon: Former President metastatic prostate cancer

Posted by peterj116 @peterj116, 4 days ago

"On Friday, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, characterized by a Gleason score of 9 (Grade Group 5) with metastasis to the bone."
"While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management. The President and his family are reviewing treatment options with his physicians," the statement continued.

As a non-American watching the last 4 years from afar, I make no comment.

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For what it's worth, I think having a high profile man like Joe be diagnosed and his DX and journey made public will help bring even more awareness about the PC world.

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@oldfords

I can assure you it does not take years for it to go to the bones. My PSA went from 0.4 to 400 in less than a year and had move to my bones.

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Yes, aggressive prostate cancer can move very quickly. One of my hospital roommates had been getting regular PSA screening (as a Canadian military vet), and his cancer was still in his bones before it was detected. So there are no guarantees, but at least annual PSA screening would reduce the number of de-novo metastatic cases.

(Also, without naming names, a certain prominent public figure who immediately tried to manipulate someone's advanced-cancer diagnosis into a political advantage should be deeply ashamed of himself. I'm not talking politics here, just basic human decency and compassion towards cancer patients.)

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@johndavis60

Seems odd to me that his cancer would have progressed this far without them knowing. I would think a PSA test would have been part of his yearly physical. Even aggressive prostate cancer would take years to metastasize to the bones.

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My husband had a psa that went from 2 to 4 in a few months. Our GP referred him to a Urologist a month later who did I biopsy with a Gleason of 9 Grade 5. He has metastases in seminal vesicles and nerve bundles. This all happened within 4 months. So yes, it can happen. He immediately started radiation for 3 months. Prior he had Decipher test with results .99 which is very high which led us to add another doctor to the team who prescribed Abiraterone/prednisone and he also gets Lupron shots every 3 months for 2 years. We are 3/4s of the way through the therapy. We shall see what happens.

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This Biden thing has really got me down. It seems that lots of people are shocked by how "horrible" his type of cancer is, but my numbers and his are almost identical. There is no evidence mine has metastasized yet, but it's pretty clear that mine is no longer hormone-sensitive.

So, I thought I was feeling good and doing well, but now I feel crappy.

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@bluegill

This Biden thing has really got me down. It seems that lots of people are shocked by how "horrible" his type of cancer is, but my numbers and his are almost identical. There is no evidence mine has metastasized yet, but it's pretty clear that mine is no longer hormone-sensitive.

So, I thought I was feeling good and doing well, but now I feel crappy.

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Don't listen too much what "news" anchors tell, they always sensationalize things to sound "interesting" and sometimes even tell stupid things that are not true.

Yesterday BBC anchor said that prostate cancer is the second most deadly cancer - he speed read somewhere that prostate cancer is the second most common disease in man that can cause death (the first is cardiovascular disease) and than wrongly made conclusion that it is the second most deadly cancer - could not be further from the truth !

Also, every single patient is different and has different outcomes no matter what the stage is. Every prostate specialist will confirm that. So just ignore news *hugs and keep your positive attitude since it is one of the most important things in fighting any disease and especially PC. Just do not watch news for some time or skip that segment.

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@lag

It doesn't seem to be the case that Biden was not being screened or that his doctors missed something. From today's coverage: "Otis Brawley, a medical oncologist at Johns Hopkins University who treats patients with metastatic prostate cancer, said it would not be surprising if previous prostate exams or screenings while Biden was president failed to turn up indications of cancer. “We need a better test,” he said."

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Where did you see the Otis Brawley, comment? Thanks.

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@surftohealth88

Don't listen too much what "news" anchors tell, they always sensationalize things to sound "interesting" and sometimes even tell stupid things that are not true.

Yesterday BBC anchor said that prostate cancer is the second most deadly cancer - he speed read somewhere that prostate cancer is the second most common disease in man that can cause death (the first is cardiovascular disease) and than wrongly made conclusion that it is the second most deadly cancer - could not be further from the truth !

Also, every single patient is different and has different outcomes no matter what the stage is. Every prostate specialist will confirm that. So just ignore news *hugs and keep your positive attitude since it is one of the most important things in fighting any disease and especially PC. Just do not watch news for some time or skip that segment.

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The BBC got it directly from the National Cancer Institute https://www.cancer.gov/types/prostate

"Prostate cancer is the most common cancer and the second leading cause of cancer death among men in the United States. Prostate cancer usually grows very slowly, and finding and treating it before symptoms occur may not improve men's health or help them live longer. Explore the links on this page to learn about prostate cancer treatment, prevention, screening, statistics, research, and more."

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@brian5837

The BBC got it directly from the National Cancer Institute https://www.cancer.gov/types/prostate

"Prostate cancer is the most common cancer and the second leading cause of cancer death among men in the United States. Prostate cancer usually grows very slowly, and finding and treating it before symptoms occur may not improve men's health or help them live longer. Explore the links on this page to learn about prostate cancer treatment, prevention, screening, statistics, research, and more."

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Yes - again, not the second most deadliest cancer in general. It causes the most deaths because it is the most common cancer in men , not because it is deadliest.

For example , 5 year survival rate for PC is 97% and about 23% for lung cancer, not to mention pancreatic (13%) etc.

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@bluegill

This Biden thing has really got me down. It seems that lots of people are shocked by how "horrible" his type of cancer is, but my numbers and his are almost identical. There is no evidence mine has metastasized yet, but it's pretty clear that mine is no longer hormone-sensitive.

So, I thought I was feeling good and doing well, but now I feel crappy.

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Don’t feel crappy. We are probably not getting the full accurate story anyway.

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@brian5837

The BBC got it directly from the National Cancer Institute https://www.cancer.gov/types/prostate

"Prostate cancer is the most common cancer and the second leading cause of cancer death among men in the United States. Prostate cancer usually grows very slowly, and finding and treating it before symptoms occur may not improve men's health or help them live longer. Explore the links on this page to learn about prostate cancer treatment, prevention, screening, statistics, research, and more."

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I see that on their website as well. Seems like a strange thing to write - might give men the impression that screening isnt important.
Like “ oh well, even if they find something, it probably won’t matter anyway, so why get screened”.

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